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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>One of the reasons that there are so many ‘unsupported superstitions’ about flu shots is that anyone who has an atypical response to a flu shot, or a medical test, or a treatment is labeled a hypochondriac by the doctors and health insurance organizations that can’t be bothered to look for the underlying cause. Anything that doesn’t fit into their profit-driven world view is minimized and labeled as an attempt to get attention or score painkillers or anything other than an attempt to get real treatment for the real and often painful symptoms that are afflicting the patient. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Thanks, </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Logan G. Harbaugh<br><a href="mailto:logan@lharba.com">logan@lharba.com</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>530-243-1346</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>1547 Magnolia Ave.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Redding, CA 96001</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><a href="http://www.lharba.com/">www.lharba.com</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ipg-smz [mailto:ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mac McCarthy<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 1, 2018 5:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> ipg-smz@netpress.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ipg-smz] Flu shot made my friend sick - any advice?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>+1 Sharon.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Many unsupported superstitions abiut flu shots.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:22 AM Sharon Fisher <<a href="mailto:slfisher@gmail.com">slfisher@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>I do not believe it is accurate that injected flu vaccine has live virus. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/misconceptions.htm" target="_blank">https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/misconceptions.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Sep 30, 2018, 11:21 PM David Needle <<a href="mailto:davidneedle@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidneedle@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks a lot Phil. Yes, that’s what is concerning; he says he’s felt this way for a week. I have seen articles online that confirm your experience of symptoms lasting a few days; but not longer.<o:p></o:p></p><div id="m_-6650158379996935708m_-4143979671379018484AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 30, 2018, at 9:46 PM, Phil Shapiro <<a href="mailto:pshapiro@his.com" target="_blank">pshapiro@his.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> David, I have first hand experience with this. A flu shot gives you a weakened dose of live flu. I have had some miserable days the day after getting a flu shot, but I'm usually back on my feet within three days.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> That's why I try to always get my flu shot on a Friday.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> His docs need to revisit the NH state motto - "Live free of self-delusion, or die."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> phil<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center id="m_-6650158379996935708m_-4143979671379018484zwchr"></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='color:black'>"davidneedle" <<a href="mailto:davidneedle@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidneedle@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To: </b>"ipg-smz" <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, October 1, 2018 12:34:37 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Ipg-smz] Flu shot made my friend sick - any advice?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>A friend of mine who recently moved to a very rural part of New Hampshire is sick. I hadn't talked to him in a few weeks and found out earlier today that he's been sick for over a week starting the day after he got a flu shot. Doctors he's seen insist it has "nothing" to do with the flu shot, but have no idea what's wrong with him. The main system is he feels achy and nauseous all the time. A number of his other friends have told him anecdotally that people get sick from flu shots all the time. I have no idea. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Anyway, just wondering if anyone has had any experience with this and found anything useful in terms of curing or dealing with it. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br>Much appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br>-- <br>Ipg-smz mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">Ipg-smz@netpress.org</a><br><a href="http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org" target="_blank">http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>--<br>Phil Shapiro, <a href="mailto:pshapiro@his.com" target="_blank">pshapiro@his.com</a><br><a href="http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html" target="_blank">http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html</a><br><a href="http://www.twitter.com/philshapiro" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/philshapiro</a><br><a href="http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html" target="_blank">http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html</a><br><br>"Wisdom begins with wonder." - Socrates<br>"Learning happens thru gentleness."<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#333333;background:white'>"We must reinvent a future free of blinders so that we can choose from real options." David Suzuki</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Ipg-smz mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">Ipg-smz@netpress.org</a><br><a href="http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org" target="_blank">http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Ipg-smz mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">Ipg-smz@netpress.org</a><br><a href="http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org" target="_blank">http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Ipg-smz mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">Ipg-smz@netpress.org</a><br><a href="http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org" target="_blank">http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Mac McCarthy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Get my<b> "Wine Tasting 101" - Kindle Edition only $1.99</b><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#0000EE'><a href="http://amzn.to/13GWHPI" target="_blank">http://amzn.to/13GWHPI</a></span></u><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Amazon Prime</span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> members! <u>Borrow this book</u> <u>FREE</u>!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>