<div><div dir="auto">All good, all I was aware of. OS/2 especially, because it’s how I met my wife.</div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 4:24 PM Tom Henderson <<a href="mailto:thenderson@extremelabs.com">thenderson@extremelabs.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>A few possible mistakes here.</p>
<p>OS/2 started as a joint effort for 32-bit computing with
Microsoft and IBM, then IBM inherited it. Windows NT 3.51 was the
successor to Windows Workgroups, and eventually, the first
ring-zero pre-emptive multitasking OS derived from that effort. It
sucked, but it survived. OS/2 had more RTOS qualities, and was a
cleaner if more difficult OS. Ask Esther.<br>
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<p>Blackberry 8 was itself an RTOS.... derived from another RTOS,
QNX. <br>
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<p>NeXT was based on Darwin, DisplayPostScript and OpenMotif, and
not the Smalltalk derivatives that enslaved Macs until OSX. In a
way OSX was a derivative of NeXTStep. NeXT OS saved the Mac from
extinction. <br>
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The joint venture that created the 68K was Apple, Motorola, and IBM.
The PowerPC anchored from that design. Motorola wasn't doing so
well....<br>
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The Itanium was developed by HP as the successor to ideas behind
PA-RISC, and usurped by Intel who then cratered the Itanium, which
it produced for HP, with the Pentium and Xeon architectures. <br>
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When Osborne was killed by the Osborne 2, I sold an additional
13,000 of my Osborne I book . People figured that they'd not get
another bit of support for the Osborne I. They were right. <br>
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Second acts ARE hard to follow.<br>
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<div class="m_8786396037847917542moz-cite-prefix">On 10/15/2018 12:14 PM, Perlow, Jason
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<div dir="ltr">I am working on a companion gallery to an
article I just published about Google's Pixel slate and
Chrome OS. </div>
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<div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-grow-up-drop-the-apple-like-arrogance-or-chrome-os-will-fail/" target="_blank">https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-grow-up-drop-the-apple-like-arrogance-or-chrome-os-will-fail/</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">In it I discuss the "Second System" effect:
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<div><span>"Second System Effect," by author Fred Brooks
in his work </span><em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mythical-Man-Month-Software-Engineering-Anniversary/dp/0201835959/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539529598&sr=8-1&keywords=the+mythical+man+month" target="_blank">The Mythical
Man-Month</a> </em><span>in 1975, which he notes
that small, elegant and successful systems tend to be
succeeded by over-engineered and bloated systems due
to inflated expectations and overconfidence.</span> </div>
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<div>I also discuss the Obsorne Effect in that article so
I am thinking of incorporating that as well.</div>
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<div>Here is a list, I think we can add a few, I'd like
your recommendations:</div>
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<div>Second Systems</div>
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<div>1) OS/360, IBM (1964, the original second system,
succeeded Series 700)</div>
<div>2) IBM OS/2 (Succeeded DOS, Windows 3.x)</div>
<div>3) Windows NT 3.1 (Succeeded OS, Windows 3.x)</div>
<div>4) Windows Vista (Succeeded Windows XP)</div>
<div>5) Windows 8/8.1 (Succeeded Windows 7)</div>
<div>6) BlackBerry OS 10 / BlackBerry Playbook (succeeded
Blackberry classic OS)</div>
<div>7) Palm WebOS (Succeeded classic Palm OS)</div>
<div>8) Apple System 7 (Replaced Apple System 6 and
classic 68000 OS, was ported to PowerPC)</div>
<div>9) Intel Itanium (Succeeded x86)</div>
<div>9.5) IBM PowerPC (Succeeded x86)</div>
<div>10) NeXT (Succeeded Apple Mac)</div>
<div>11) Lisa (Succeeded Apple II, preceded Mac)</div>
<div>12) Apple III (Succeeded Apple II)</div>
<div>13) Commodore Amiga (Succeeded Commodore 64)</div>
<div>14) Atari ST (Succeeded Atari 800)</div>
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<div>Osbornes</div>
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<div>1) The Original Osborne effect (Osborne 2)<br>
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<div>2) Microsoft "Cairo" (Original Object-Oriented NT 5.0
project, failed)</div>
<div>3) Taligent OS (failed IBM/Apple Partnership to merge
OSes)</div>
<div>4) SCO/IBM Project Monterey (this might be better on
the Second System list)</div>
<div>5) Google Fuchsia (potential Osborne)</div>
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