<div dir="ltr">Not really. Was just an update of 98 which was an update of 95. Drivers and stuff, not a platform change</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:20 AM Lynn Greiner <<a href="mailto:lists@itwriter.com">lists@itwriter.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_610608927873920255WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">The abomination known as Windows ME?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Perlow, Jason<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 15, 2018 12:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> IPG List <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Ipg-smz] Fwd: "Second System and Osborne Effects" gallery<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">I am working on a companion gallery to an article I just published about Google's Pixel slate and Chrome OS. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-grow-up-drop-the-apple-like-arrogance-or-chrome-os-will-fail/" target="_blank">https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-grow-up-drop-the-apple-like-arrogance-or-chrome-os-will-fail/</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">In it I discuss the "Second System" effect:<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:#ededed">"Second System Effect," by author Fred Brooks in his work <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mythical-Man-Month-Software-Engineering-Anniversary/dp/0201835959/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539529598&sr=8-1&keywords=the+mythical+man+month" target="_blank">The Mythical Man-Month</a> </em>in 1975, which he notes that small, elegant and successful systems tend to be succeeded by over-engineered and bloated systems due to inflated expectations and overconfidence.</span> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I also discuss the Obsorne Effect in that article so I am thinking of incorporating that as well.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Here is a list, I think we can add a few, I'd like your recommendations:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Second Systems<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">1) OS/360, IBM (1964, the original second system, succeeded Series 700)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">2) IBM OS/2 (Succeeded DOS, Windows 3.x)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">3) Windows NT 3.1 (Succeeded OS, Windows 3.x)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">4) Windows Vista (Succeeded Windows XP)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">5) Windows 8/8.1 (Succeeded Windows 7)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">6) BlackBerry OS 10 / BlackBerry Playbook (succeeded Blackberry classic OS)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">7) Palm WebOS (Succeeded classic Palm OS)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">8) Apple System 7 (Replaced Apple System 6 and classic 68000 OS, was ported to PowerPC)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">9) Intel Itanium (Succeeded x86)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">9.5) IBM PowerPC (Succeeded x86)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">10) NeXT (Succeeded Apple Mac)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">11) Lisa (Succeeded Apple II, preceded Mac)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">12) Apple III (Succeeded Apple II)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">13) Commodore Amiga (Succeeded Commodore 64)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">14) Atari ST (Succeeded Atari 800)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Osbornes<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">1) The Original Osborne effect (Osborne 2)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">2) Microsoft "Cairo" (Original Object-Oriented NT 5.0 project, failed)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">3) Taligent OS (failed IBM/Apple Partnership to merge OSes)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">4) SCO/IBM Project Monterey (this might be better on the Second 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