<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have just completed the research for an article on data monetization supported by blockchains. This is a straightforward use case, with a here and now value, which blockchains are designed to address. Not much of data is actually utilized currently due to privacy issues. Several tech companies provide free services while they make money from data without the knowledge of their customers. With the outrage that has built up following the Cambridge Analytics incident, and as a result of the GDPR legislation, it will be hard for tech companies to continue to sell data without the knowledge of their customers. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Blockchain-based companies will compensate data suppliers with cryptocurrencies. As the volume and variety of data explode with the expansion of the Internet of Things and connected devices, the urgency to monetize data is even greater. On the demand side, applications such as autonomous cars, and augmented reality need data in real-time which blockchains can mediate through their market exchanges. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 5:36 PM Liam Kelly <<a href="mailto:ljkelly1888@gmail.com">ljkelly1888@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">Don't you need to report any transaction to the IRS? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I know in Germany buying a coffee (retail transactions in general) has recently been taken been taken out of the tax authorities cross hairs, but I wasn't sure if this was the case in the US. Can I go to Starbucks without telling the authorities about my crypto purchase? </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As a side note, the BTC tax situation in Ohio includes an important detail. Ohio will be converting their BTC to USD inmediately (via payments platform BTCPay). So the loss/gain of value will always be on the side of the holder, and never Ohio. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">When were you mining BTC by the way? Did you never report your earnings on your BTC at that time? I think at the recent price points you could likely boot up your rig again...</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Tom Henderson <<a href="mailto:thenderson@extremelabs.com" target="_blank">thenderson@extremelabs.com</a>> schrieb am Mi. 28. Nov. 2018 um 03:18:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>BTC, in and of themselves, are not "taxable events". If you
minted them, you have a basis and may have a capital gain in their
manufacture. <br>
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<p>If you bought high and sold higher, there's a taxable gain. If
you bought high and sold low, you have a loss.</p>
<p>If you bought BTC at $5K and sold that segment for $5K, there is
no loss or gain, and there is no theory of tax that applies,
except those surrounding intangible property taxes, which are
usually transient (taxed once per annum or period). <br>
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<p>So, paying in BTC for taxes due doesn't create another taxable
event, e.g. no double taxation.</p>
<p>Is Ohio smart or stupid for taking BTC? Smart. Three reasons: 1)
it outs BTC holders who may or may not have an unreported possible
gain; 2) allows those that bought high, which includes many
people, a way of paying potentially without an offsetting loss,
which would lower Ohio's capital gain income; and 3) getting paid
today offsets inflation. All taxing authorities want to offset
inflation, which they can't control.</p>
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<div dir="auto">The second degree of irony (of which I'm still
parsing through) is that in the US all Bitcoin transactions
are taxable events.</div>
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<div dir="auto">So does that mean that paying taxes in BTC would
also engender yet another taxable event? </div>
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<div dir="auto">Outside of the infinite feedback loop of paying
your crypto taxes, I think Ohio has done this more in regards of
optimism/adoption ("bullish") and hoping to attract small
businesses. </div>
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<div dir="auto">The Midwest, in general, indeed seems pretty
curious to attract crypto talent. There are more than a few
politicians from the region announcing their crypto support. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Final note: Bitcoin will eventually get absorbed
by the state or die. I feel pretty confident about that despite
holding a bit of this magic Internet money...</div></blockquote></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div>This strikes me as strange because of something taught
to me in an economics class 15 years ago: Taxes are one of
the only pinchpoints where government can insist on
payment in dollars.
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<div>Even if the rest of society starts trading in chicken
feet, by insisting on dollars the government ensures
that they continue to have value. (No dollars? We're
putting you in jail.) When the Hungarian pengő bills
became near-worthless in 1945, what replaced them? Tax
certificates ("adópengő").
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<div>Perhaps I was mistaught, or that economic model is
no longer valid. Or perhaps the state is sticking it
to the federal government. (In the latter case, I'd
expect some lawsuits and public statements.) In either
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