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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Primarily due to EPA water and energy requirements… <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ipg-smz [mailto:ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Perlow, Jason<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 11, 2018 3:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> ipg-smz@netpress.org; nyveen@gmail.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ipg-smz] Why I'm not going to CES<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>You would be surprised how badly built the new ones are. I’ve had to replace 3 over a 5 year period.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/iot-sucks-but-your-home-appliances-are-unreliable-slabs-of-junk/">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/iot-sucks-but-your-home-appliances-are-unreliable-slabs-of-junk/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 3:07 PM Lawrence Nyveen <<a href="mailto:nyveen@gmail.com">nyveen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 8:29 AM Christine Hall <<a href="mailto:christine@fossforce.com" target="_blank">christine@fossforce.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>It seems like it has some of the same features as automatic dishwashers, <br>which requires dishes to already be relatively clean before the washing <br>works. <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>When's the last time you shopped for a dishwasher?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As long as we don't put bones, gravel, or other non-puree-able waste into our 18-year-old dishwasher, we don't have to rinse dishes or pots at all. (Although, sour cream and cooked-on egg do seem to need some extra help.)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Ipg-smz mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">Ipg-smz@netpress.org</a><br><a href="http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org" target="_blank">http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>JASON PERLOW</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Sr. Technology Editor, ZDNet</span><o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=813 style='width:487.5pt'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Voice/Text (561)510-0063<br><a href="mailto:jperlow@gmail.com" target="_blank" title="[GMCP] Compose a new mail to jperlow@gmail.com"><span style='color:#333333'>jperlow@gmail.com</span></a><br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#466BB0'>ZDNet Tech Broiler: </span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><a href="http://www.techbroiler.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#333333'>www.techbroiler.com</span></a></span></b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#5F5F5F'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#466BB0'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#466BB0'>Socialize Me:</span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'><a href="http://www.twitter.com/jperlow" target="_blank">Twitter</a> | <a href="http://www.instagram.com/jasonperlow" target="_blank">Instag</a><a href="http://www.instagram.com/jasonperlow" target="_blank">ram</a> | </span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><a href="https://www.facebook.com/techperlow" target="_blank">FaceBook</a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'> | </span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonperlow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'> | </span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'><a href="https://plus.google.com/101127849472046131831" target="_blank">Google+</a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'> | </span></b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#5F5F5F'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>