<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">To echo Jason, I am amazed at how "civilians" can make their computers work in any form of fashion in many cases. Feel embarrassed that technology, and the major vendors, still make things so difficult.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Thanks,</div><div>James</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">James E. Gaskin<br><a href="http://www.gaskin.com" target="_blank">http://www.gaskin.com</a><br>Writer / Consultant / Speaker<br></div><div><a href="http://netpress.org/member/james-e-gaskin/" target="_blank">Member </a>Internet Press Guild<br></div><div><a href="https://jamesgaskin.contently.com/" target="_blank">Portfolio</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G6LJXZA" target="_blank"></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 3:10 PM Perlow, Jason <<a href="mailto:jperlow@gmail.com">jperlow@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">This is a list full of technologists and technology pioneers. We are not regular end users. Period. Full stop.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-3683140621569810278gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:19 AM Scott Koegler <<a href="mailto:scott@koegler.net" target="_blank">scott@koegler.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font class="gmail-m_-3683140621569810278gmail-m_26322164912270415defaultFont" face="Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-m_-3683140621569810278gmail-m_26322164912270415mail-greeting">Hi ipg-smz,</span><br><br>Ditto my own 70 yr old experience. But to be fair, anyone on this list, regardless of their age, is not the typical user at any age.<br><br><div style="font-size:0px;line-height:0;max-height:0px"><img height="1" width="1" border="0" alt="" style="border: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; font-size: 0px; line-height: 0; max-width: 0px; max-height: 0px; overflow: hidden;" src="https://circulate.it/t/1I9HkPQaDUvpGbXgjjDQTN30X4Px1m4twJlFT8FhyRLqQLZxO7c5P6_oDAV9p9I_/info.png"></div><span class="gmail-m_-3683140621569810278gmail-m_26322164912270415mail-signature">. . .<br>Scott Koegler<br><a href="mailto:scott@koegler.net" target="_blank">scott@koegler.net</a><br>336-818-9463<br>Skype: skoegler<br>ScottKoegler.me<br></span><br><br><div class="gmail-m_-3683140621569810278gmail-m_26322164912270415quote-original">On Jan 17, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Lynn Greiner <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Define “older person”. I know 30 year-olds who can’t cope with their phones, and 80 year-olds who do tech support for the kids. I cheerfully mock a colleague, a decade younger than me, who relies on me to help him with WiFi at conferences.</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Perlow, Jason<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 17, 2019 9:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> IPG List <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ipg-smz] Why I love Apple?</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Their customer service is excellent. That's why I also use their stuff (although not exclusively) and recommend it to many other people. For pure end-users it's excellent. Their mobile platform has its issues but otherwise, very much the same recommendation. I would never give Android to an older person, it's far too complicated -- although I have given Chromebooks to a number of elderly. Other people want things that can be more easily customized or adapted. But its an excellent platform of products for 80 to 90 percent of the people out there in the consumer and content producer space. In the enterprise, not so much.</p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:06 AM <a href="mailto:arnieswap@gmail.com" target="_blank">arnieswap@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:arnieswap@gmail.com" target="_blank">arnieswap@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">As someone who has been hardcore Desktop Linux user and Advocate, I am kind of loving Apple. People say Apple is not for professionals and its toys. But today I had an amazing experience with Apple and it was NOT about their hardware (BTW, Google Pixel costs as much as MacBook and can't do half of the stuff). So I moved from Adobe Premiere to FCPX and I had some issues. I work on a video on my MacBook Pro and save it as a project so I can revisit or make changes in future if needed. I have a Linux server for over 50TB where I store all my such files. However, when I bring the files back to my Mack to edit, the external plugins will show error. I did find a workaround (macOS being UNIX, everything is a file)....but I wanted a solution so I left a message to Apple and they called me back at 9 am. He went through the whole issue, we spend almost 45 minutes on the phone where he tried to solve the issue and it seems that the ext4/BTRF file system might be messing up with the bundled files and may break the structure. He gave great tips about best practices and so one. As a multimedia <span style="background:rgb(246,213,217)">professional</span>, my problem was solved over the phone. And they CALLED. Last time I had a hardware related issue and they fixed it and this time I had a software related problem and they solved it. <br><br>Just wanted to share this story. I am NOT an Apple fan or Google fan or Microsoft fan. I am just a user, and I would LOVE the company who will help me and *not* charge for it. 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