<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">On 15 Feb 2019, at 17:52, Richard Santalesa <<a href="mailto:rsantalesa@smartedgelaw.com" class="">rsantalesa@smartedgelaw.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I think you will have to agree that the #MeToo movement was accompanied by, in various quarters, the push of a #BelieveAllWomen corollary<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">That's quite an assertion! So let's quantify, as journalists do.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Google shows about 353K hits for #BelieveAllWomen and 196,000K hits for #MeToo. That's one in ~500, or 2/10ths of 1%. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Even if #BelieveAllWomen was always paired with #MeToo (it's not), that's far below what a reasonable person would say "accompanies by, in various quarters". They are not fellow travelers.</div><div class=""><br class="">But check this out. On Twitter, it appeared every single one of the 50 most recent #BelieveAllWomen-tagged Tweets are using it ironically, to pretend -- as you're doing -- that it's sincerely used in the wild.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Your statement is definitively false. ("the #MeToo movement was accompanied by, in various quarters, the push of a #BelieveAllWomen corollary.")</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">which not only damaged the valid attention that should be paid to the #MeToo issue, but then set the stage for blowback as we’ve seen.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I would oppose such a wrongheaded and prejudicial idea as #BelieveAllWomen -- if, again, it existed. But, nope, overwhelmingly it's a false flag. And you fell for it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Back to the topic: Journalists examine, quantify, analyze. It's not that hard, but it takes time.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">---<br class="">Tom Geller * Writer & Video/journalist * <a href="http://tomgeller.com" class="">http://tomgeller.com</a><br class=""> Rotterdam, The Netherlands, +31 (0)6 87071468<br class=""> Oberlin, Ohio * +1-415-317-1805</div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 15 Feb 2019, at 17:52, Richard Santalesa <<a href="mailto:rsantalesa@smartedgelaw.com" class="">rsantalesa@smartedgelaw.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Not sure how you make that Evil Knievel-level leap of what I’m suggesting. My comments are reserved EXCLUSIVELY to the scenario I’m describing in the context of a false accusation’s consequences and the results of the situation in responses by men. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I think you will have to agree that the #MeToo movement was accompanied by, in various quarters, the push of a #BelieveAllWomen corollary, which not only damaged the valid attention that should be paid to the #MeToo issue, but then set the stage for blowback as we’ve seen.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ipg-smz [<a href="mailto:ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org" class="">mailto:ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tom Geller<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, February 15, 2019 11:33 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" class="">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Ipg-smz] Bro culture in action<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On 15 Feb 2019, at 17:24, Richard Santalesa <<a href="mailto:rsantalesa@smartedgelaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rsantalesa@smartedgelaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">If doesn’t matter if 99.9% of people are not falsely accused as the consequences of being falsely accused are so nuclear that</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">You're suggesting that *being accused of* rape is worse than *being* raped. We disagree. <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Anyway, you're getting far away from the flawed original concepts: That #MeToo is an accusation per se, or has led to an increase in false accusations. Journalists don't parrot such nonsense.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif;" class=""><br class="">---<br class="">Tom Geller * Writer & Video/journalist * <a href="http://tomgeller.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://tomgeller.com</a><br class=""> Rotterdam, The Netherlands, +31 (0)6 87071468<br class=""> Oberlin, Ohio * +1-415-317-1805<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Ipg-smz mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="mailto:Ipg-smz@netpress.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Ipg-smz@netpress.org</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>