Gabe, I'm guessing you're white.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 8:33 PM Richard Santalesa <<a href="mailto:rsantalesa3@optonline.net">rsantalesa3@optonline.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" id="gmail_block_quote0"><div><div dir="auto">I'm not sure my perspective is different. I know many law enforcement officers, have contacts in the CT FBI offices. Etc.<br><br></div>
<div dir="auto">I have no issues approaching LEO to query or discuss, but if approachef and questioned in the context of an investigation my standard recommendation is to state, "I'm happy to help in any way I can, but I can't speak to you further without my counsel advising me"<br><br></div></div><div>
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<p>FWIW, different perspective here. After attending FCPD Citizens Police Academy, I attended FBI Citizens Academy at Washington, DC Field Office (both fascinating/informative). Again, knowing multiple FBI agents and officials, I've had pleasant/informative interactions with them. As a citizen, I both carry an ACLU membership card and value my dealings with local and federal law enforcement. I won't quote the tired saying "If you haven't done anything, you have nothing to worry about" and recognize there have been abuses but don't feel the need to be on guard. In fact, both FCPD officers and FBI agents have been helpful when I had minor issue or questions to discuss.<br> </p>
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Sorry. As an attorney I recommend no discussion with LEO ( especy federal) other than definitely known facts with counsel present.
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Exactly Sharon. That's the dilemma. You get out and can't find a decent job. What do you do? Fast food or crime?
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So when someone has done their time, what are they supposed to do for a living when released?
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FWIW, I've volunteered with Fairfax County, VA Police Department for 10+
<br> years. I know -- and in many cases have ridden with -- officers from
<br> patrol to chief. I chaired my police station's Citizens Advisory
<br> Committee and serve on the Chief's Advisory Council. I'm on a task force
<br> developing policies for public safety use of drones -- it's about 40
<br> people, including police, fire&EMS, fire marshal, county attorney, FAA,
<br> Audubon Society, business organizations, citizen/civic groups, and head
<br> of Virginia ACLU. Output so far is a draft 35+ page manual and all the
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<a href="http://fairfaxcounty.gov/uas" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">fairfaxcounty.gov/uas</a>.
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<br> There are 18,000+ law enforcement agencies in the country so it's
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<br> Fairfax cops I know are honest/honorable/motivated to do the right
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<br> to FCPD problems. There's pretty good transparency and responsiveness.
<br> Fairfax (1200+ officers) isn't Mayberry or NYC (30,000+ officers) --
<br> there's no reason NOT to talk to police here; in fact middle/high
<br> schools all have School Resource Officers whose job is to TALK to kids
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