<div dir="ltr">As always - IPG to the rescue! Thanks Tom, Swap, Tara and Todd. Though the truth is Todd wasn't very helpful at all. <div><br></div><div>(Having recently FINALLY met Todd in person, I hope we are at the stage where he can handle my not-at-all-serious jibes!) <br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:08 PM Tom Henderson <<a href="mailto:thenderson@extremelabs.com">thenderson@extremelabs.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Tara's suggestion is good, and so is Swap's. <br>
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    <p>There are two versions of 802.11n, one for 2.4GHz, and the other
      for 5GHz. That your machine wouldn't support "n-5GHz" is
      mysterious. It might be turned off in the BIOS. And the 5GHz has
      less penetration in some circumstances. This has nothing to do
      with "5G" which can barely be found in its most primitive form,
      anywhere on the planet. The tech you describe seems unskilled,
      unless I'm missing something.<br>
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    <p>Like they suggest down thread-- get a cheap dongle.</p>
    <p>And to answer your question, no, your machine is just fine. An
      802.11ac dongle is cheap and will work on your machine. Make sure
      it has drivers for Windows (most all do). If you have a USB-C port
      on your machine, use that, as under some circumstances, it will be
      faster than a slower USB port. <br>
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    <p>Tom (early liaison to the IEEE 802.11 committee)<br>
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    <p><br>
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    <div class="gmail-m_-2840967607511641693moz-cite-prefix">On 5/29/19 7:53 PM, David Needle wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Yes, "only" supports 802.11n</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:51
          PM Swapnil “Swap” Bhartiya <<a href="mailto:arnieswap@gmail.com" target="_blank">arnieswap@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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          <div>They should support 2.4Ghz too. 5Ghz won’t be detected by
            older chips. I am sure you are NOT confusing 5G network with
            5Ghz wifi…
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            <div>Also if you can, check which network your wifi chip
              detects : <span> If it says that the adapter supports </span><span>802.11a</span><span> and </span><span>802.11g</span><span> and </span><span>802.11n</span><span> network
                modes, it means that the computer has 2.4 GHz and 5GHz
                network capability.   If it says </span><span>802.11n
                802.11g</span><span> and </span><span>802.11b </span><span>network
                modes, it means the computer has 2.4GHz network
                capability only.</span></div>
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              <div><a href="https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/computer-not-see-5ghz-wifi-sees-2-4ghz-windows/" target="_blank">https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/computer-not-see-5ghz-wifi-sees-2-4ghz-windows/</a></div>
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              <div>Swap</div>
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                  <div>On May 29, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Todd R. Weiss <<a href="mailto:toddrweiss@gmail.com" target="_blank">toddrweiss@gmail.com</a>>
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                    <div dir="auto">That's  ridiculous. 
                      <div dir="auto">If it isn't backward compatible
                        then that is ridiculous system configuration. </div>
                      <div dir="auto">There will be plenty of non 5G
                        equipment around for a long time.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">I don't buy that excuse. </div>
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                      <div dir="auto">:)</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                        <div dir="auto">Todd R. Weiss<br>
                          Technology Journalist<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 29,
                        2019, 7:33 PM Swapnil “Swap” Bhartiya <<a href="mailto:arnieswap@gmail.com" target="_blank">arnieswap@gmail.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
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                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote">Yes. If your wifi
                        chip doesn’t support 5Ghz, it won’t work. We
                        have some older lappies and they can only detect
                        2.4GHz.<br>
                        <br>
                        > On May 29, 2019, at 7:30 PM, David Needle
                        <<a href="mailto:davidneedle@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">davidneedle@gmail.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                        > <br>
                        > <br>
                        > <br>
                        > I ask this because of an incident in the
                        press room at Salesforce's TrailheaDX conference
                        today. They had a special WiFi password for the
                        room, but it didn't work for me. A tech came
                        over, but couldn't get it to work, even after
                        also trying several other "secret" WiFi logins.
                        <br>
                        > <br>
                        > His explanation was that they had probably
                        set it up for 5G and my notebook didn't support
                        that. <br>
                        > <br>
                        > No idea if that's a plausible explanation.
                        No one else seemed to have a problem connecting.
                        As it turned out, there was another WiFi code
                        available to all attendees that worked perfectly
                        fine throughout the Moscone Center so it turned
                        out not to be an issue. <br>
                        > <br>
                        > Is there another explanation? Is this issue
                        likely to come again anytime soon? <br>
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