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<p>Consider that on a production line, QA is a process with N steps.
A refurbished system often has N steps, and more because of a
second set of eyes that aren't on a rushed production line.
Sometimes a single component, like an SSD goes dead early. The
replacement SSD probably comes from better stock, and more eyes
and QA/QC steps have been applied. I wouldn't reject a
manufacturer refurbished product out of hand; indeed, they can
represent great value with even higher possible reliability than
those from a retail box. When I was QA/QC management in consumer
electronics, I recall any number of reasons why I would recommend
a reman-product or a refurb-product over a "new" one. Why? More
eyes, more steps, albeit at a poorer profit margin for the maker.
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<p>Tom</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/30/19 8:22 PM, Swapnil “Swap”
Bhartiya wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:23A74E9C-38C9-492D-B5C7-545BDD633DB8@gmail.com">If I am
going to spend more than $4500, I am not getting a refurbished
product. <br class="">
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<p class="">For whatever reasons, people return machines.
Apple re-manufactures them. They look no different from
a retail-packaged machine. The specs are very important
to your work, so selections should be made to follow
your exact requirements. They cost about 10% less,
sometimes more. If there's something ugly, it's always
noted, but I haven't seen an ugly note in years.
Although I don't buy Apple any more, others that I've
recommended have had very good results.</p>
<p class="">Tom</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/30/19 7:33 PM, <a
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href="mailto:arnieswap@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">arnieswap@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br
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<div dir="ltr" class="">What do you mean by the refurb
store? Are these brand new latest machines? </div>
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at 7:32 PM Tom Henderson <<a
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<p class="">I don't know of a program that does
that. Apple does offer (via paypal credit),
decent deals, especially through their refurb
store, <a
class="gmail-m_216699822592961144moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/mac/macbook-pro"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/mac/macbook-pro</a>
and I've shopped there before, and recommend it
for taking some of the sting out of retail
prices. Apple Care is suggested.</p>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Hello All
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<div class="">Considering my line of work,
where I am mostly traveling, I prefer having
the most powerful MacBook on the block.
Apple just released a new MacBook Pro and I
would love to upgrade to it (I upgraded to
Vega 20 model in Jan this year). However, I
don't want to go through the hoops of
selling old devices. Is there any way I can
stay on the latest Apple hardware?<br
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