<div dir="ltr">I don't think they will have 'refurb' products the same day they ship pre-order for the machine I want. Never been a fan of a refurb. I see your point, but it doesn't solve my problem. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 7:45 PM Tom Henderson <<a href="mailto:thenderson@extremelabs.com">thenderson@extremelabs.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>For whatever reasons, people return machines. Apple
      re-manufactures them. They look no different from a
      retail-packaged machine. The specs are very important to your
      work, so selections should be made to follow your exact
      requirements. They cost about 10% less, sometimes more. If there's
      something ugly, it's always noted, but I haven't seen an ugly note
      in years. Although I don't buy Apple any more, others that I've
      recommended have had very good results.</p>
    <p>Tom</p>
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    <div class="gmail-m_7879441976310088491moz-cite-prefix">On 5/30/19 7:33 PM, <a class="gmail-m_7879441976310088491moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arnieswap@gmail.com" target="_blank">arnieswap@gmail.com</a>
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      <div dir="ltr">What do you mean by the refurb store? Are these
        brand new latest machines? </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 7:32
          PM Tom Henderson <<a href="mailto:thenderson@extremelabs.com" target="_blank">thenderson@extremelabs.com</a>>
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            <p>I don't know of a program that does that. Apple does
              offer (via paypal credit), decent deals, especially
              through their refurb store, <a class="gmail-m_7879441976310088491gmail-m_216699822592961144moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/mac/macbook-pro" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/mac/macbook-pro</a>
              and I've shopped there before, and recommend it for taking
              some of the sting out of retail prices. Apple Care is
              suggested.</p>
            <p>Tom</p>
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              5/30/19 7:09 PM, <a class="gmail-m_7879441976310088491gmail-m_216699822592961144moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arnieswap@gmail.com" target="_blank">arnieswap@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Hello All
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                <div>Considering my line of work, where I am mostly
                  traveling, I prefer having the most powerful MacBook
                  on the block. Apple just released a new MacBook Pro
                  and I would love to upgrade to it (I upgraded to Vega
                  20 model in Jan this year). However, I don't want to
                  go through the hoops of selling old devices. Is there
                  any way I can stay on the latest Apple hardware?<br>
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                      <span>Founder & Editor: <a href="http://www.TFiR.io" target="_blank">www.TFiR.io</a></span><br>
                      <span>Freelance Journalist | Science Fiction
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                      <span>Specialises in Open Source & Emerging
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