<div dir="ltr">Ok. Found a solution. I must once again give Apple credit for being super helpful. They have a lease program for business owners. So I ordered iMac Pro, am holding back on Mac Pro as it won't be out before September. But the lease program allows me to upgrade every year, two year or 3 years. So I will be upgrading to Mac Pro once the lease is up.<div><br></div><div>Where I appreciate Apple is that I wanted more info on the system I needed. Most people tend to think more core more RAM makes it powerful. Not really. It depends on the workflow. NLEs can't see or use more cores, they are more sensitive to clock speed. So getting an 18 core iMac won't be any more efficient than 8 core Mac. Both Adobe Premiere and FCP can utilize only so much core. So what Apple did was put me on phone (and THEY CALLED ME) with a video professional and we discussed all possibilities and he suggested that I should get 8 core 32GB memory. It was NOT about trying to sell me the most expensive mac, it was all about finding the right one for me. It was almost an hour-long call. We ended up settling on 10 core and 64GB of RAM, mainly because I said I might also run some VMs for Linux and Windows stories. It will NEVER happen anywhere else. So when people become Apple fan these are the reasons. It's not that there are zombies out there who have no brains. It's about getting a service and experience you will NOT get anywhere else.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, that concludes my transition from being a desktop Linux user to a macOS user, I am finally with a platform that just works and lets me do all those things that I was not able to do for the last 15 years. Year of desktop Linux will never arrive. <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 9:28 PM Swapnil “Swap” Bhartiya <<a href="mailto:arnieswap@gmail.com">arnieswap@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">It still doesn’t solve my problem. <br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 30, 2019, at 9:26 PM, Tom Henderson <<a href="mailto:thenderson@extremelabs.com" target="_blank">thenderson@extremelabs.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_8826337402412580130Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>The inventory fluctuates, admittedly. My last machine, an MBA,
was purchased from there, but suffered from the stupid keyboard
problem, which went out just after Apple Care expired. Eventually,
I fixed it, and it sits in the lab awaiting times when nothing
works better than macOS in a test situation. <br>
</p><p>This said, I have two colleagues that found the refurb deals
cheaper than their Apple university prices. None of theirs has had
a problem. <br>
</p><p>Refurbs appear quickly. Might help. <br>
</p><p>Tom</p><p><br>
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<div class="gmail-m_8826337402412580130moz-cite-prefix">On 5/30/19 9:20 PM, <a class="gmail-m_8826337402412580130moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arnieswap@gmail.com" target="_blank">arnieswap@gmail.com</a>
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<div dir="ltr">I don't think they will have 'refurb' products the
same day they ship pre-order for the machine I want. Never been
a fan of a refurb. I see your point, but it doesn't solve my
problem. </div>
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PM Tom Henderson <<a href="mailto:thenderson@extremelabs.com" target="_blank">thenderson@extremelabs.com</a>>
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<div><p>For whatever reasons, people return machines. Apple
re-manufactures them. They look no different from a
retail-packaged machine. The specs are very important to
your work, so selections should be made to follow your
exact requirements. They cost about 10% less, sometimes
more. If there's something ugly, it's always noted, but I
haven't seen an ugly note in years. Although I don't buy
Apple any more, others that I've recommended have had very
good results.</p><p>Tom</p><p><br>
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5/30/19 7:33 PM, <a class="gmail-m_8826337402412580130gmail-m_7879441976310088491moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arnieswap@gmail.com" target="_blank">arnieswap@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">What do you mean by the refurb store? Are
these brand new latest machines? </div>
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at 7:32 PM Tom Henderson <<a href="mailto:thenderson@extremelabs.com" target="_blank">thenderson@extremelabs.com</a>>
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<div><p>I don't know of a program that does that. Apple
does offer (via paypal credit), decent deals,
especially through their refurb store, <a class="gmail-m_8826337402412580130gmail-m_7879441976310088491gmail-m_216699822592961144moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/mac/macbook-pro" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/mac/macbook-pro</a>
and I've shopped there before, and recommend it
for taking some of the sting out of retail prices.
Apple Care is suggested.</p><p>Tom</p><p><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello All
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<div>Considering my line of work, where I am
mostly traveling, I prefer having the most
powerful MacBook on the block. Apple just
released a new MacBook Pro and I would love to
upgrade to it (I upgraded to Vega 20 model in
Jan this year). However, I don't want to go
through the hoops of selling old devices. Is
there any way I can stay on the latest Apple
hardware?<br>
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