<div><div dir="auto">The tough news is that editorial—what we do—is not the key to a successful publication. Because Editorial does not directly generate revenue.</div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 8:53 AM Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It was a respectable place. It needed some marketing juice, and taking <br>
itself less seriously.<br>
<br>
I saw your byline there frequently. Sorry it's gone. It joins the <br>
tombstones of so many publications. The good news: there'll be more <br>
publications. The Guild has a lot of great and thoughtful tech writers. <br>
Journalism is mountainous, and the bottom has a rocky reputation.<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
<br>
<br>
On 8/8/19 10:47 AM, Marcel Gagne via Ipg-smz wrote:<br>
> Greetings, all.<br>
><br>
> I'm saddened by the news. I've written a lot of articles for Linux Journal over the years and they've always been good to me, even when I got extremely drunk at their parties or plied their readers with alcohol. Of the people on this list, I probably have the longest (or close to it) history with the publication, so it's hard to see the magazine die yet again. It's also sad because it's yet another publication following so many others into extinction.<br>
><br>
> This is why we have <a href="http://archive.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">archive.org</a>, I suppose. Given how many magazines we've lost, and will lose, perhaps the Internet Archive is where we should stand together for the final battle.<br>
><br>
> -- Marcel<br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "ipg-smz" <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>><br>
> To: "ipg-l" <<a href="mailto:ipg-l@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-l@netpress.org</a>>, "ipg-smz" <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>><br>
> Cc: "Christine Hall" <<a href="mailto:christine@fossforce.com" target="_blank">christine@fossforce.com</a>><br>
> Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 9:41:02 AM<br>
> Subject: Re: [Ipg-smz] [Ipg-l] Linux Journal Shuts Down<br>
><br>
> Bryan Lunduke. He's been around forever, both as a writer, and as Richi<br>
> mentioned, as a popular speaker at open source conferences. He wrote a<br>
> column "The Linux Tycoon" for years -- for NetworkWorld, I believe --<br>
> and in the last couple of years, at least until he joined LJ, produced<br>
> and hosted a videocast that seemed to get a lot of traffic.<br>
><br>
> He's definitely not for everyone's taste, but he's always an interesting<br>
> read.<br>
><br>
> And yes, this is the second time that LJ ceased publication. Whey<br>
> announced in 2017 that they were shutting down, but immediately an angel<br>
> showed up brought money and a new business plan to play.<br>
><br>
> I wrote a couple of articles for them when they resumed publication, and<br>
> only quit writing because my day job doesn't leave me the time.<br>
> Otherwise, I'd still be writing for them today. They paid reasonably<br>
> well and paid on time.<br>
><br>
> Christine Hall<br>
> Publisher & Editor<br>
> FOSS Force: Keeping tech free<br>
> <a href="http://fossforce.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://fossforce.com</a><br>
><br>
> On 8/8/19 8:23 AM, Ken Hess via Ipg-l wrote:<br>
>> I've never heard of this Lunduke person.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>><br>
>> Ken<br>
>><br>
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>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 7:20 AM Rikki Endsley via Ipg-l<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:ipg-l@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-l@netpress.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ipg-l@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-l@netpress.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I'm no fan of Lunduke, but it's incredibly unfair to blame him for<br>
>> Linux Journal shutting down.<br>
>><br>
>> I followed their business for years when I worked on Linux Pro<br>
>> Magazine, and they haven't had the ad sales or subscription numbers<br>
>> to stay afloat in ages. It's been a passion project for folks<br>
>> working on Linux Journal and no one was getting rich from their<br>
>> contributions. I'm sorry to see the publication fold, but also not<br>
>> surprised.<br>
>><br>
>> If you hear of any of the writers looking for work writing advanced<br>
>> Linux/open source/developer articles, please send them my way.<br>
>><br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>> Rikki<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 11:44 PM Swapnil Bhartiya via Ipg-l<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:ipg-l@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-l@netpress.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ipg-l@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-l@netpress.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Sad day for 'Consumer' Desktop Linux community. But what do you<br>
>> expect when you hire folks like Bryan Lunduke as Deputy Editor.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> /*On August 7, 2019, Linux Journal shut its doors for good.<br>
>> All staff were laid off and the company is left with no<br>
>> operating funds to continue in any capacity. The website<br>
>> will continue to stay up for the next few weeks, hopefully<br>
>> longer for archival purposes if we can make it happen.*/<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> /*–Linux Journal, LLC*/<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-journal-ceases-publication-awkward-goodbye" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-journal-ceases-publication-awkward-goodbye</a><br>
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