<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Thanks for enlightening me, Carol.</div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>>> Men’s Rights Activists. They believe men are being oppressed by women because women are taking jobs meant for men and wearing skirts that expose their ankles. Those hussies.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>So, these men are wearing skirts that expose their ankles? So, they're Scots, then. Interesting. Now I just have to figure out how this fits into the discussion. :-) Obviously, I need more coffee.</div><blockquote class=""><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 9:42 AM Christine Hall via<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-348BA03965672612C850BE220DD96DD5" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: Ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="Pig~Ig~Ing~pg~Pg" data-pwa-dictionary-word="Ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">Ipg</pwa>-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-7AC779845F50E0074132AF5BCC4E4909" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="seems~seams~sums~Sims~smears" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" class="">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Bryan Lunduke. He's been around forever, both as a writer, and as Richi<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">mentioned, as a popular speaker at open source conferences. He wrote a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">column "The Linux Tycoon" for years<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-D15C3AB01793EA8D79180B51A4541A70" data-pwa-rule-id="EM_DASH_DOUBLE" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Do you want to use an em-dash here?" data-pwa-suggestions="—" data-pwa-dictionary-word="--" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">--</pwa><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-09421F7735C0EEBAC15D8ACE01A78202" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: NetworkWorld" data-pwa-suggestions="Network world" data-pwa-dictionary-word="NetworkWorld" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">NetworkWorld</pwa>, I believe<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-89AF6059A9324BCA1057EFC99B8809B1" data-pwa-rule-id="EM_DASH_DOUBLE" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Do you want to use an em-dash here?" data-pwa-suggestions="—" data-pwa-dictionary-word="--" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">--</pwa><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">and in the last couple of years, at least until he joined LJ, produced<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">and hosted a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-07FD924E617B06A676E5359FA2EE9800" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: videocast" data-pwa-suggestions="videocassette" data-pwa-dictionary-word="videocast" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">videocast</pwa><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>that seemed to get a lot of traffic.<br class=""><br class="">He's definitely not for everyone's taste, but he's always an interesting<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">read.<br class=""><br class="">And yes, this is the second time that LJ ceased publication. Whey<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">announced in 2017 that they were shutting down, but immediately an angel<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">showed up brought money and a new business plan to play.<br class=""><br class="">I wrote<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-BC152FD4A224F78F5557DE5D0313775C" data-pwa-rule-id="READABILITY_122" data-pwa-category="style" data-pwa-hint="Readability may be enhanced by using: two" data-pwa-suggestions="two" data-pwa-dictionary-word="a couple of" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">a couple of</pwa><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>articles for them when they resumed publication, and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">only quit writing because my day job doesn't leave me the time.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Otherwise, I'd still be writing for them today. They paid reasonably<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">well and paid on time.<br class=""><br class="">Christine Hall<br class="">Publisher & Editor<br class="">FOSS Force: Keeping tech free<br class=""><a href="http://fossforce.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://fossforce.com</a><br class=""><br class="">On 8/8/19 8:23 AM,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-CE371D2F6BB90A19DCD97ABFCF1C744C" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Incorrect named entity spelling: Ken Hess" data-pwa-suggestions="Ken Hesse" data-pwa-dictionary-word="Ken Hess" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">Ken Hess</pwa><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>via Ipg-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-D206B3B5FC168E5C9B3FE1B67B5FAFEA" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: l" data-pwa-suggestions="li" data-pwa-dictionary-word="l" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">l</pwa><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class="">> I've never heard of this Lunduke person.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Thanks,<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Ken<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Kenneth Hess<br class="">> (918) 919-0411 (Skype)<br class="">> Twitter: @kenhess<br class="">> Skype:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-18C4DE1A23539E745CBF73C21F7B6E91" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: kenneth_hess" data-pwa-suggestions="Kenneth Hess" data-pwa-dictionary-word="kenneth_hess" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">kenneth_hess</pwa><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://kenhess.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-4F0CBBBB1F1DFE1A23216774EC4CC44B" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: kenhess" data-pwa-suggestions="Kansas~kinases~Knossos~kyphosis~Kinshasa" data-pwa-dictionary-word="kenhess" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">kenhess</pwa>.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="http://www.kenhess.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://www.kenhess.com/</a>> -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://frugalnetworker.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-C71D738A1A5DE371C2E6E6F11E7E0035" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: frugalnetworker" data-pwa-suggestions="frugal networker" data-pwa-dictionary-word="frugalnetworker" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">frugalnetworker</pwa>.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> <<a href="http://frugalnetworker.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://frugalnetworker.com/</a>><br class="">> Filmmaker -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-DE40BE0B5EB3CCA58A480F885123889A" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: Podcaster" data-pwa-suggestions="podcast~podcasts" data-pwa-dictionary-word="Podcaster" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">Podcaster</pwa><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>- Reviewer - System Administrator - Writer<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 7:20 AM Rikki Endsley via Ipg-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-E619A4F8A0FDAB4C4B24A0723A273F8C" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: l" data-pwa-suggestions="a~s~v~li~lf" data-pwa-dictionary-word="l" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">l</pwa><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> <<a href="mailto:ipg-l@netpress.org" target="_blank" class="">ipg-l@netpress.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-C03D6F4473799DE15986DC993E9B5F33" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: mailto:ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="multipack" data-pwa-dictionary-word="mailto:ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">mailto:</pwa><a href="mailto:ipg-l@netpress.org" target="_blank" class=""><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-C03D6F4473799DE15986DC993E9B5F33" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: mailto:ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="multipack" data-pwa-dictionary-word="mailto:ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">ipg</pwa>-l@netpress.org</a>>> wrote:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> I'm no fan of Lunduke, but it's<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-7B733E15ABC75433D7F7B367B48967AB" data-pwa-rule-id="READABILITY_2264" data-pwa-category="style" data-pwa-hint="Readability may be enhanced by removing this" data-pwa-suggestions="(omit)" data-pwa-dictionary-word="incredibly " class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">incredibly </pwa>unfair to blame him for<br class="">> Linux Journal shutting down.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> I followed their business for years when I worked on Linux Pro<br class="">> Magazine, and they haven't had the ad sales or subscription numbers<br class="">> to stay afloat in ages. It's been a passion project for folks<br class="">> working on Linux Journal and no one was getting rich from<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-51B24C67ADBD7C5BD2BFDC04BF0F7117" data-pwa-rule-id="CRFSR_THEIR_19" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Possible confused word" data-pwa-suggestions="there" data-pwa-dictionary-word="their" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">their</pwa><br class="">> contributions. I'm sorry to see the publication fold, but also not<br class="">> surprised.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> If you hear<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-D6BE6B257D05901EE7351C936E2EBF82" data-pwa-rule-id="OF_ANY_OF" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Consider simply using 'of' instead." data-pwa-suggestions="of" data-pwa-dictionary-word="of any of" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">of any of</pwa><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>the writers looking for work writing advanced<br class="">> Linux/open source/developer articles, please send them my way.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Best regards,<br class="">> Rikki<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 11:44 PM Swapnil Bhartiya via Ipg-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-AB80F59E043E0AD3A0F5047DC95402F3" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: l" data-pwa-suggestions="a~s~v~li~lf" data-pwa-dictionary-word="l" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">l</pwa><br class="">> <<a href="mailto:ipg-l@netpress.org" target="_blank" class="">ipg-l@netpress.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-905D702C9B8C789C347F26D4B308315C" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: mailto:ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="multipack" data-pwa-dictionary-word="mailto:ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">mailto:</pwa><a href="mailto:ipg-l@netpress.org" target="_blank" class=""><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-905D702C9B8C789C347F26D4B308315C" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: mailto:ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="multipack" data-pwa-dictionary-word="mailto:ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">ipg</pwa>-l@netpress.org</a>>> wrote:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Sad day for 'Consumer' Desktop Linux community. But what do you<br class="">> expect when you hire folks like Bryan Lunduke as Deputy Editor.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> /*On August 7, 2019, Linux Journal shut its doors for good.<br class="">> All staff<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-5CC7514154B764817360CD2E2159E390" data-pwa-rule-id="PASSIVE_VOICE" data-pwa-category="style" data-pwa-hint="Passive verbs make your writing less direct. Try to use an active verb instead." data-pwa-suggestions="" data-pwa-dictionary-word="were laid" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">were laid</pwa><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>off<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-89A4415FB975EBE3BE748A44F91EB43E" data-pwa-rule-id="CC" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="You might need a comma before this conjunction if it joins two independent clauses. 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