<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="georgia, serif"></font></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="georgia, serif">Miguel de Icaza tells this “never meet your heroes” story:<br></font></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><font face="monospace">I hosted rms many years ago in the 90’s, what was supposed to be hosting your hero for a ~3 day thing became a ~2 month nightmare. I joined a small club “never host rms ever again.”<br>…<br>He met a woman on the first evening in town, and extended his stay. One day, I came home from work and she had moved in.<br>…<br>I am too embarrassed to say how the whole thing unfolded. I can share the stories in person.</font></blockquote><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="georgia, serif"><a href="https://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/1173981287037751297">https://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/1173981287037751297</a> <br clear="all"></font></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-size:x-small"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.8px"><div dir="ltr" style=""><div style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-size:x-small"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"><font face="georgia, serif" size="1"> <br>// <a href="http://twitter.com/RiCHi" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">@RiCHi</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> |</span> <a href="tel:%2B44.7789.200701" value="+447789200701" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">+44.7789.200701</a> | <a href="tel:1.408.256.0084" value="+14082560084" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">1.408.256.0084</a> | <a href="http://richi.uk/" target="_blank">richi.uk</a> <br></font></div></div></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small"><font face="georgia, serif" size="1" style=""> </font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 8:44 PM Andy Patrizio via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Sounds like the difference between him and Steve Jobs is 100 pounds and a<br>
shower. Ok 200 pounds.<br>
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Subject: [Ipg-smz] On Stallman<br>
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Fellow Guilders,<br>
<br>
I go way back in Linux. Long ago, the Linux Business Expo was part of<br>
COMDEX, and I was one of many functionaries in the greater spheres of COMDEX<br>
program development. Lots of interesting characters evolved Linux for a<br>
variety of motivations.<br>
<br>
Stallman was the anti-Microsoft. The pillar of free. I'm not a licensed<br>
medical/health/psych practitioner in any jurisdiction, but Stallman had<br>
brains, perhaps some autisim, and thought things through. He cared not one<br>
whit about his personal appearance or scent. Clue #1.<br>
<br>
He had boundaries in the philosophy of Free. They were well-developed and<br>
thought through. Much of his hard work in finishing the utilities that make<br>
the operating system we know as Linux were at his hands, or one step-away.<br>
<br>
His lip flatulence was notorious, as is/was/were many in the early free/open<br>
source movement. Many of them had a gripe with the sheer mendacity of<br>
Microsoft and its minions. SJV-N believes Microsoft has changed. I'm not<br>
sure if I share that believe, but as an researcher, I continue to observe.<br>
<br>
Stallman is a member of a wider body of men that think within their own<br>
context. It's difficult to shift outside of that personal context for them.<br>
I'm not excusing their behavior, just observing it.<br>
<br>
Nor am I forgiving it, and history shouldn't, either. The object that we'll<br>
look backwards upon 100yrs from now, should have that stain mentioned, not<br>
just the bullet-point of: founder of "free" as a construction and<br>
architectural concept. He was also: a dick.<br>
<br>
Can he help being a dick? I'll leave that to others. Too many men follow<br>
their hormones rather than something evolved in the pre-frontal cortex. <br>
Is being a dick part of autism? Does it being autism make it forgivable? <br>
No, is my answer-- it's a quality that doesn't offset the fetid scent.<br>
<br>
Every day I deal with my autistic brother's shenanigans. He is built, how<br>
he's built.; in the 1960s it was rare to even get a diagnosis and few knew<br>
what to do with autistim diagnoses. He's trainable. Graduated high school.<br>
But moving outside of his own context is nigh impossible. <br>
Change comes after daunting repetition. Only then. Trust me: only then. <br>
My late mother had him queued in a very Pavlovian way, and was successful,<br>
but my brother doesn't live with me. I've developed a support network for<br>
him. At a family event, he will blurt the most insane stuff, not<br>
understanding how a poop joke might not go over well with his aging aunt.<br>
Clueless. There are many clueless in the world. <br>
Their population doesn't forgive the cluelessness, just makes us work harder<br>
at inculcating manners. Like most of us, he wants to be loved.<br>
<br>
And so, atop the object that we might describe about others, their<br>
incredible accomplishments but their amazing lip flatulence and even more<br>
morbid felonies: some were built to not recognize the emotive response of<br>
other humans. It's just the way things are.<br>
<br>
There are many "Aspie" and autistic people somehow in my immediate circle of<br>
people, or perhaps, one step away. Here in the university town where I live,<br>
it's like the aforementioned Mensa meeting, where people came to study, and<br>
unable to live in the real world, became academics, or failing that, became<br>
"townies" with IQs in excess of 145 joining their peers. They never succeed<br>
in any recognizable way, but they fit into a rag-tag bunch of intellectual<br>
misfits which in turn, becomes a subculture of snorters. Nothing inherently<br>
wrong with snorters. And a common denominator of humanity is: Misfit, if of<br>
differing cultures and acumen.<br>
<br>
To address therefore Dana's "everyone is eventually forgiven" comment, my<br>
answer is no, that's not quite correct. Like most things, it's more<br>
complicated than that. Some will want to understand the complexity, while<br>
others just want to ascribe to The Winning Team or soundbite.<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
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