<div><div dir="auto">I was working at the university of Illinois with these two kids and told them the web would be big, and they should make software to graphicalize cuz gopher was terrible. “You can call it a browser”, I said...</div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 7:07 PM Mark Brownstein via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Johanna:</p>
    <p>I'm looking forward to learning a lot, too. At least you weren't
      careless enough to  NOT join years ago....(I've been doing writing
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        leads from this bunch; there are many generous people on here. I
        learn something nearly every day - but maybe that speaks more to
        my lack of knowledge than your needs! 
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                        2019 at 8:35 AM Richi Jennings via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>>
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                                  . Campbell’s summary of Rimm’s role in
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                              <li><a href="https://fortune.com/2015/07/01/cyberporn-time-marty-rimm/" target="_blank">PE-D’s
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                            1, 2019 at 3:55 AM Stephen Satchell via
                            Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>>
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                            9/30/19 3:43 PM, Mark Brownstein via Ipg-smz
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                            > I hope you're doing well -- it's great
                            to see  your name here. (Why the<br>
                            > hell didn't I join this group in 1996?)<br>
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                            A little capsule history.  A bunch of us
                            (yes, I am a "founding member")<br>
                            took over a news group, much to the disgust
                            of other readers of the<br>
                            newsgroup.  So SVJN put up the first
                            iteration of the IPG mailing list.<br>
                             We've been growing ever since.<br>
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                            What was the trigger event?  The "RIMM JOB"
                            that was the cover story for<br>
                            Time magazine.  It was so full of
                            misinformation about the Internet that<br>
                            it just struck us as so wrong.  We also had
                            the fear that newbies on the<br>
                            Internet beat wouldn't have a trusted
                            touchstone to help them learn<br>
                            about the place.<br>
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              <div>Johanna Ambrosio</div>
              <div dir="ltr">Freelance business and tech writer/editor</div>
              <div>508-460-9147 (on Eastern time)</div>
              <div><a href="mailto:Johanna.ambrosio@gmail.com" target="_blank">Johanna.ambrosio@gmail.com</a></div>
              <div>See a sampling of my clips here: <a href="https://www.clippings.me/jambrosio" target="_blank">https://www.clippings.me/jambrosio</a></div>
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