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<p>I would argue that it's not that black-and-white. Yes, there have
been lots of contributions and cultural change. Microsoft still
has a huge franchise in Windows and all things Windows. It still
must generate ferocious amounts of revenue, and free/open source
software doesn't, in and of itself, generate a dime of that
revenue. The wolf is still hungry. <br>
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<p>I've observed both Microsoft and F/OSS for not quite fifty
years-- both of them. Microsoft is complex; they arguably helped
others make a lot of revenue and grow the entire industry,
upending the fiefdoms that existed before they went public, long
ago. I was the Enterprise Windows columnist for Windows Magazine.
A good friend planted the seeds that lead to the Microsoft
Developer Network. This said, I also helped form the Linux
Business Expo that the COMDEX folks once ran. <br>
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<p>Much of Microsoft's observable advocacy for F/OSS is for revenue
generation, which in and of itself, is expected. Their need to
keep developers happy is no longer the antagonism it once was.
Their control of their press, messaging, and market control is
exerted quietly yet effectively. "Control" is the operative word.
Microsoft doesn't like surprises that affect their stock price.</p>
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technologies it is using integrate with others. The old
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<div>In the 1990s, the technology market was about
controlling the whole stack. Nadella recognizes that
while he would like to control the stack, and is capable
of doing it, that most companies don't want to deal with
a single vendor. He also recognizes that in order to
work in a cloud-first world, you need to play nicely
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<div>I talk to startups all the time who work with the big
vendors. I consistently hear that Microsoft's tone and
actions have shifted dramatically under Nadella.
Microsoft went from a company that was difficult to work
with to one that it is cooperative, friendly and open.</div>
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<div>The wolf in sheep's clothing idea might make sense on
a certain level, but the market reality belies it. If
Microsoft wants to be a cloud and developer focused
company, it simply can't be a control freak anymore and
Nadella and his executive team understand that.</div>
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> Which is rather funny, given how active Microsoft is
in the open source<br>
> community now. But I guess there always has to be a
Big Bad.<br>
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> Funny you should use a comic book, er, "graphic
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It feels like I first heard that phraseology used in Buffy
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series), which led to it being used as an explicit term in
further Buffy <br>
episodes, and other shows, movies, comics, etc.<br>
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(Also, explicitly, in Bill Willingham's wonderful FABLES
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with Bigby Wolf, who was, along with having a human form
at times, indeed <br>
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