<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Yeah, especially when you run into someone who is downright depraved but enjoys considerable power which has nothing to do with their skills or even motivation. For them, work provides a cover for their unsavory and dark behavior. <br></div><br><div id="mt-signature">
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>I can understand the freakout. <br>
</p><p>I'm still fully for shared transportation models, especially
trains. <br>
</p><p>I've used them across the planet. Why they didn't open doors, I'm
not sure. Seems harrowing.</p><p>This happened to me once in Paris on the RER train. They didn't
open the doors. We were aghast. Then the doors opened two stops
later. Why? Turns out, much teargas around the station due to a
local insurrection.... and the fumes were traveling down the
tunnel. <br>
</p><p>Ok, good enough.</p><p>Tom</p><p><br>
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<div><span>very quiet here -- Caltrain horror stories from the
SF commuters -- the train doors wouldn't open when they
stopped in Palo Alto! same thing in Mountain View! people
were freaking out. Finally got off the train in Santa
Clara or something and took an uber to work -- $45 and 2.5
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