<div dir="ltr">"It's a financial risk (on my part) vs. reputational risk (on their part). In the end, I can comfortably say no and move along, but it would be a shame. It's not every day that a full-time writing position in journalism falls in your lap..."<br><br>It didn't. They're holding it above your lap with a promise to maybe drop it if you sacrifice your current livelihood. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 10:29 AM Liam Kelly via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I totally agree with both you and Ellen. I think they expect me to bear all the risk, which is a little unfair considering how difficult it already is for journalists/writers these days. On the other hand, I understand how it can be risky for a publication to bring on writers who could be perceived as <i>shill</i>s<i> </i>or biased or something along those lines. <div><br></div><div>I could technically make up the lost freelance work, but I'd be churning out a lot of articles with a "make-more-money" objective in mind rather than an "investigate-take-your-time-be-a-good-journalist" objective. <br><div><br></div><div>It's a financial risk (on my part) vs. reputational risk (on their part). In the end, I can comfortably say no and move along, but it would be a shame. It's not every day that a full-time writing position in journalism falls in your lap...</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:19 PM Mitch Wagner <<a href="mailto:mitch@mitchwagner.com" target="_blank">mitch@mitchwagner.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Seems like they want it both ways -- they want the benefit of having you full-time without offering you full-time benefits. <div><br></div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard">Sounds like this full-time gig might be a bad place to work. They're making unreasonable conditions from the start. </div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard"><br></div></div><div>Can you afford to say nope, you'll continue writing for your other freelance contacts until you come on full time, knowing that the full-time gig might vanish because of it?</div><div><br></div><div>Alternately, do they pay enough freelance that you can afford to let your other freelance gigs fall away?</div><div><br></div><div>I have freelanced twice and both times this experience concluded when I was hired full-time by one of my freelance gigs. In both cases, there was a transition period after we agreed I'd come on full-time, but before I was actually hired. In both cases, I continued with all my freelance assignments until I actually came on staff. </div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0px;font-family:Calibri;min-height:17px"><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-family:Calibri;min-height:17px">-- </p><p style="margin:0px;font-family:Calibri;min-height:17px"><a href="http://mitchwagner.com/about/" target="_blank">Mitch Wagner</a></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 7:13 AM Liam Kelly via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I've been speaking with a crypto/blockchain publication this week about coming on board to help with their coverage. I will be paid on a per article basis during a one month "trial period," after which, if all goes well, I'll be offered a full-time position.</div><div><br></div><div>Now, I also write copy for some crypto/blockchain companies at current. One company is a startup in the space, whereas the other is a PR firm that represents other crypto companies (among other subjects). </div><div><br></div><div>The editor has stated that I need to stop writing for these companies before beginning the trial period. I understand his reasoning (i.e. conflict of interest), but it seems risky. </div><div><br></div><div>What happens if I cut ties with a chunk of high paying work only to see the full-time staff position get passed on to someone else? I should add that the staff position will likely make up for the loss of marketing work financially, and I have no problem dropping the latter once I've signed a contract to work full-time for this publication. </div><div><br></div><div>It is indeed tricky, and I thought members of the group would have some good ideas/counter-proposals. What's a win-win for all parties in this situation?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance,</div><div><br></div><div>Liam </div><div><br></div></div>
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