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<p>So far, that hasn't been my experience -- but they HAVE increased
the costs a bit. <br>
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<p>It probably makes Sling, with the extra cost for HBO (if I want
it), a more reasonable choice. <br>
</p>
<p>I stayed with them because I signed up the first week and got a
special (really) offer.</p>
<p>If I was to get a new account with them, I may think twice.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/3/2019 12:56 AM, Steven
Vaughan-Nichols via Ipg-smz wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">AT&T Now is bleeding customers. High prices
and streaming hiccups for some users are kicking it around.
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<div dir="auto">Steven</div>
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<p>There may be some confusion between DirecTV and what used
to be called DirecTV Now. It's now called AT&T TV Now.
I've had Sling and AT&T Now. AT&T Now includes DVR
capability. It runs on FireTV. I have a plan that is no
longer available - it gives me most of the stuff offered
on cable, and very little of which we (my wife and I)
actually watch. We're paying $5 for HBO (and this enables
us to also use HBO GO). The interface takes a bit of
learning to master. I beta tested a set top box, and it
assigns channel numbers to each source. The box is
programmable, so I was able to add Android apps. <br>
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<p>Sling seems to be a bit easier to use, but my package
doesn't include local channels. It's also less expensive.
<br>
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<p>For those who can't get a good video signal for over the
air programming, there's Locast. Locast is a streaming
service that streams local channels - without adding its
own ads - in selected markets. It's available in Los
Angeles, where I live, and actually offers a channel or
two that I can't get over the air. A problem with them is
that, unless you make a 'donation' to keep them running,
you may get nags asking you to donate. I haven't donated,
so I don't know what will happen after I do. FWIW -
AT&T recently gave Locast $500k. <br>
</p>
<p>I haven't used YouTube TV, so I can't write about it. <br>
</p>
<p>Disney's new streaming service may be interesting - if a
bit limited. <br>
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<div>On 11/2/2019 12:04 PM, Mac McCarthy via Ipg-smz wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Look again. My DirecTV via AT&T has
DVR. Don’t know what channels you are missing. We pay
extra for Netflix of course, and we added an AppleTV
so we can subscribe to Titans .(live-action successor
to cartoon Teen Titans) on Warner because my daughter
writes episodes for it (!). She is good at action
shows.)</div>
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at 11:54 AM Howard M. Cohen <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal">When I last looked at
DirecTV it didn’t have DVR capability and was
missing several key channels. YouTube TV is
great, but doesn’t run on a firestick and so
does not integrate with my smarthome strategy.
Hulu with Live TV is as good as YouTube TV and
DOES run on firestick. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ipg-smz <<a
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mac McCarthy via Ipg-smz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 2, 2019 11:51
AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ipg-smz] Advice Needed:
Cutting the Cord</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does DirecTV count?
That’s elwhat we have and we like it.</p>
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at 11:21 AM Christine Hall via Ipg-smz
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Christine Hall<br>
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On 11/2/19 1:42 PM, Steven
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> YouTube TV is my second fave of the
net TV networks.<br>
> <br>
> Steven<br>
> <br>
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 6:26 PM
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> <br>
> I prefer YouTube TV over Sling.
At last count about seventy "cable"<br>
> channels plus all of your local
over the air local channels.<br>
> <br>
> Remember, with Amazon Prime you
still don't get HBO, Showtime, or<br>
> Cinemax automatically. You
still have to pay for them. HBO,
Showtime,<br>
> and maybe Cinemax, are also
available through YouTube TV.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Christine Hall<br>
> Publisher & Editor<br>
> FOSS Force: Keeping tech free<br>
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> On 11/2/19 1:19 PM, Steven
Vaughan-Nichols via Ipg-smz wrote:<br>
> > PBS is tricky. But, as to
the rest, my current fave is Sling TV.<br>
> Working<br>
> > out which packages to get
X networks is still a pain. OTA with<br>
> Sling TV<br>
> > and Amazon Prime should
work well for you.<br>
> ><br>
> > Steven<br>
> ><br>
> > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at
6:11 PM Bob Reselman via Ipg-smz<br>
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> ><br>
> > Time to cut the cord.<br>
> ><br>
> > I need some advice.<br>
> ><br>
> > I know I can get HBO,
ShowTime, Cinemax on Amazon Prime.<br>
> ><br>
> > I’m wonder if anybody
can recommend a the best service for<br>
> standard<br>
> > commercial fare: FX,
PBS, CNN, MSNBC, Fox, AMC. A&E,
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