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    <p>See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://groups.io/static/pricing">https://groups.io/static/pricing</a>; about $220/yr for most of
      what we need (middle tier).</p>
    <p>I don't know about groupspaces.com. Might be ok. Never heard of
      them.<br>
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    <p>There are fun to professional to tech to insane groups there. I
      belong to a few of each category.</p>
    <p>Migration is another story. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Let's all say a prayer to St Robin of Miller and pray for his
      grace (and sense of dark humour).</p>
    <p>Tom</p>
    <p><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/13/19 4:50 PM, Lynn Greiner via
      Ipg-smz wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">What do we know about these folks? An
          option? They have a free tier we could test. <a
            href="http://groupspaces.com/pricing" moz-do-not-send="true">http://groupspaces.com/pricing</a></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"> </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">When I tried to go to group.io, I got a
          page trying to flog the domain. Ah - nevermind - it's group<b><span>s</span></b>.io.
          Clever of them to automate moving of Yahoo and Google groups.
          Can’t see pricing, though, and have no desire to sign up just
          to see what it costs!</p>
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
          From: Ipg-smz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org"><ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org></a> On Behalf
          Of Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz<br>
          Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 4:27 PM<br>
          To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a><br>
          Cc: Tom Henderson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thenderson@extremelabs.com"><thenderson@extremelabs.com></a><br>
          Subject: Re: [Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing
          lists</p>
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">I will also contribute shekels.</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"> </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">Some alternatives include group.io (am
          on four ex-yahoo/refugee lists there)</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"> </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">Cheap hosting as in
          namecheap/hostgator/etc that costs about $200 yr that uses
          php-ish bbs-ish (even 2FA/MFA authenticated) hosting (meaning</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">NON-email)</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"> </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">Or migrate totally to slack, which
          visually is tough for what we do as a mailing list.</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"> </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">We're geeks here. Time to crack some
          knuckles. Not so long ago, David Gewirtz pushed through the
          netpress.org re-do pretty successfully. </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">Perhaps one of us can help you migrate
          the mailman version to something modern. I have
          MySQL/SQL-of-anything skills, if that's a problem. I could be
          a DBA if it didn't seem to require heavy high-calibre weapons.</p>
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">Tom</p>
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">On 12/13/19 3:13 PM, Daniel Dern via
          Ipg-smz wrote:</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">> On Fri, 13 Dec 2019, Daniel Dern
          via Ipg-smz wrote:</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">>> The least-cost account is
          $5.95/month, so under $10 including the </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">>> SIM, and (I just called and
          asked) you get up to five mailing lists </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">>> for that price.</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">>> (This account could probably
          also handle an IPG site, either as HTML </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">>> or WordPress, even.)</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">> So that's like $100/year. I
          wouldn't be surprised if Pair could be </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">> talked into comp'ing the account,
          even; I'd be happy to ask 'em.</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">> DPD</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">--</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">Tom Henderson</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">ExtremeLabs, Inc.</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">+1 317 250 4646</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">Twitter: @extremelabs</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">Skype: extremelabsinc</p>
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">--</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">Ipg-smz mailing list</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><a href="mailto:Ipg-smz@netpress.org"
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Tom Henderson
ExtremeLabs, Inc.
+1 317 250 4646
Twitter: @extremelabs
Skype: extremelabsinc</pre>
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