<html><body><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div>I <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-0B46AE26BD1E7D23CF9243916D54392E" data-pwa-rule-id="READABILITY_2073" data-pwa-category="style" data-pwa-hint="Readability may be enhanced by using: get" data-pwa-suggestions="get" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="obtain" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">obtain</pwa> <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-9A7D35A2DA89B5F7AC3DB81B4A1B8412" data-pwa-rule-id="DET_CG_2" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Possible missing determiner" data-pwa-suggestions="a large~the large" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="large" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">large</pwa> value from the IPG lists and community. Count me in for $125/year contribution, if we <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-9B8E1920F27CD47F54FAA5D751500350" data-pwa-rule-id="READABILITY_835" data-pwa-category="style" data-pwa-hint="Readability may be enhanced by removing this" data-pwa-suggestions="(omit)" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="choose to " class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">choose to </pwa>go with a paid list service. Fine with me, too, if others might <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-91CDC13A503FBFCE263A0DB86AEFF40F" data-pwa-rule-id="READABILITY_835" data-pwa-category="style" data-pwa-hint="Readability may be enhanced by removing this" data-pwa-suggestions="(omit)" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="choose to " class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">choose to </pwa>contribute or not contribute.</div><div><span id="selectionBoundary_1576260794638_2293231557924591" class="rangySelectionBoundary" style="line-height: 0; display: none;"></span></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-62C3937B9668A6595B3EC0843917FB5D" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="pig" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">ipg</pwa>-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-F5FCAF60B5749EA64CA5AC56AAF90289" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="sums~seams~seems" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa>" <ipg-smz@netpress.org><br><b>To: </b>"<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-8D9732DEA6C7A155E0ABD18D8DBCF8C4" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="pig" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">ipg</pwa>-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-D2C6921EC31E058F5F9A0DE32EA43C37" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="sums~seams~seems" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa>" <ipg-smz@netpress.org><br><b>Cc: </b>"Marcel Gagne" <marcel@marcelgagne.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, December 13, 2019 1:04:13 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-C8A2FA1BBEDDE5CAF7A3E7581F8D5C76" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: Ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="pig" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="Ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">Ipg</pwa>-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-64AB4101B3A580673B5344FE69E3D650" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="seems~seams~sums~Sims~Simms" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa>] We need an alternative to our existing <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-E38487B9D17E3E6770EF5AAECBA30CA8" data-pwa-rule-id="MISSING_END_PUNCT_CE" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Possible missing end punctuation" data-pwa-suggestions="lists." data-pwa-heavy="true" data-pwa-dictionary-word="lists" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">lists</pwa><br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div><span id="selectionBoundary_1576259960527_6124457114406368" class="rangySelectionBoundary" style="line-height:0;display:none"></span></div><div>> I'll be behind Joe. Google is not your friend, it is your rapist. </div><br><div>Ah, the eternal problem. If we want it free, then we must understand and accept that the cost of free is being paid elsewhere and in some other way. Note that I'm not making moral or ethical judgements here. I'm only saying that Google offers its Groups <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-ADBE5D45F7F28316DA495A2FEFC96C80" data-pwa-rule-id="CRFSR_FORA_32" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Possible confused word" data-pwa-suggestions="for" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="fora" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">fora</pwa> (or forums) free at the cost of the end users surrendering some amount of privacy, as a starting point. </div><br><div>If we don't want to associate with a company <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-3555DCFB76E67FC97F01CFEEEA405420" data-pwa-rule-id="READABILITY_457" data-pwa-category="style" data-pwa-hint="Readability may be enhanced by using: to maintain" data-pwa-suggestions="to maintain" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="in terms of maintaining" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">in terms of maintaining</pwa> this list, then perhaps we need to <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-D72E07890E04C350220FC084209E66AC" data-pwa-rule-id="READABILITY_1548" data-pwa-category="style" data-pwa-hint="Readability may be enhanced by removing this" data-pwa-suggestions="(omit)" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="find a way to " class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">find a way to </pwa>rent a VPS somewhere, load up and maintain software, of which there is a hell of a lot, and <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-4EF73B25CEC9532C8E46CD81C56558ED" data-pwa-rule-id="READABILITY_242" data-pwa-category="style" data-pwa-hint="Readability may be enhanced by removing this" data-pwa-suggestions="(omit)" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="of course, " class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">of course, </pwa><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-FC36C71AE1C7088274888E5A8FB2C057" data-pwa-rule-id="READABILITY_1548" data-pwa-category="style" data-pwa-hint="Readability may be enhanced by removing this" data-pwa-suggestions="(omit)" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="find a way to " class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">find a way to </pwa>pay for it. </div><br><div>Would those who <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-9B879ADBB104C058E5DDD82089EB2A4D" data-pwa-rule-id="PASSIVE_VOICE" data-pwa-category="style" data-pwa-hint="Passive verbs make your writing less direct. Try to use an active verb instead." data-pwa-suggestions="" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="are concerned" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">are concerned</pwa> about accepting the gilded cage of a corporate benefactor/ruler be willing to pony up a few dollars a month to maintain the list?</div><br><div><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-3A9C9C1E0C54E00FBD5E5FE5B1BB7E0D" data-pwa-rule-id="EM_DASH_DOUBLE" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Do you want to use an em-dash here?" data-pwa-suggestions="—" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="--" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">--</pwa> <br>Marcel <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-8B6F6038932507B01994E071E395C91D" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: Gagné" data-pwa-suggestions="Gagen~Gage~Gagna~Nagne~Gagnef" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="Gagné" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">Gagné</pwa><br>Writer and Free Thinker at Large<br>Note: This <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-7B5EA92596C62272C33B8EBFADA51791" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: massagee" data-pwa-suggestions="massage~massages" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="massagee" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">massagee</pwa> <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-CEED493484C62C65C7FFEBAD21A05822" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: wos" data-pwa-suggestions="was~cos~Wos" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="wos" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">wos</pwa> <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-9A068D60DFF7EB4BA91D9EB1F0275945" data-pwa-rule-id="CRFSR_NAT_29" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Possible confused word" data-pwa-suggestions="neat" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="nat" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">nat</pwa> <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-E40A22056C22607F43482B33B2341B75" data-pwa-rule-id="CRFSR_SPEEL_12" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Possible confused word" data-pwa-suggestions="spell" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="speel" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">speel</pwa> or <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-6F9A23AFD69207D232F791DA5B11DB74" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: gramer" data-pwa-suggestions="graver~grader~grater~grazer~grayer" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="gramer" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">gramer</pwa>-checkered.</div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div><b>From: </b>"<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-30893E0CA35AF47FE51925B184F9C151" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="pig" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">ipg</pwa>-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-0622572FCA9BB93B30037C492C783DA2" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="sums~seams~seems" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa>" <ipg-smz@netpress.org><br><b>To: </b>"<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-D1B3D71B8C7D7BC065A99F1A232DA8D2" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="pig" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">ipg</pwa>-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-210EE467C7023393911673BB8DC09ADF" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="sums~seams~seems" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa>" <ipg-smz@netpress.org><br><b>Cc: </b>"Tom Henderson" <thenderson@extremelabs.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, December 13, 2019 12:32:39 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-B4F1F34C332BCC316D729431B42E8E82" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: Ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="pig" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="Ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">Ipg</pwa>-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-739949EBFD9829DA789C3571C756F43E" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="seems~seams~sums~Sims~Simms" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa>] We need an alternative to our existing <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-3959AF0927DC704DF60E04DD1D84B62F" data-pwa-rule-id="MISSING_END_PUNCT_CE" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Possible missing end punctuation" data-pwa-suggestions="lists." data-pwa-heavy="true" data-pwa-dictionary-word="lists" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">lists</pwa><br></div><br><div><p>I'll be behind Joe. Google is not your friend, it is your rapist.
<br>
</p>
<p>Tom<br>
</p>
<div>On 12/12/19 10:30 PM, Joe <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-42D173015356EF3B7F25CA20E0465400" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: Stanganelli" data-pwa-suggestions="Tanganelli~Stancanelli~stingingly~stinkingly" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="Stanganelli" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">Stanganelli</pwa>
via <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-ACD4541564FC4452921A4826FBA2BEA7" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: Ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="Pig~Ig~Ing~pg~Pg" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="Ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">Ipg</pwa>-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-FCB29E890679F47F4C45A9AF6701EBDA" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="seems~seams~sums~Sims~Simms" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If we switch to Google <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-99CE7DA0CC6DE06F3543DC9DE62A5EE7" data-pwa-rule-id="SUB_CLAUSE_2" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Missing comma after subordinate clause" data-pwa-suggestions="groups," data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="groups" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">groups</pwa> please remove
me before doing so.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Joe</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<div dir="ltr"><b>From:</b> Ipg-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-C67E1D9005E648827C2F3F6B73544C2F" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="seems~seams~sums~Sims~smears" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa>
<a href="mailto:ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org></a> on behalf of Matt Heusser
via Ipg-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-DE9710ACF075AF4DC2F4508B787ECE18" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="seems~seams~sums~Sims~smears" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa> <a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><ipg-smz@netpress.org></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 12, 2019 8:47:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-E3519408D6D62C88FDC8542B8E391F1B" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: sjvn" data-pwa-suggestions="seven~son~sin~skin~soon" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="sjvn" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">sjvn</pwa> via Ipg-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-607547D65FCF4C4B8797CD42C7BD8B31" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="seems~seams~sums~Sims~smears" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa> <a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><ipg-smz@netpress.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Matt Heusser <a href="mailto:matt@xndev.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><matt@xndev.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ipg-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-A6D5C9AA132BBDCF5D87464A5E623579" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="seems~seams~sums~Sims~Simms" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa>] We need an alternative to our
existing <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-5CF9A36078718F4543F4FBCE823A053C" data-pwa-rule-id="MISSING_END_PUNCT_CE" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Possible missing end punctuation" data-pwa-suggestions="lists." data-pwa-heavy="true" data-pwa-dictionary-word="lists" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">lists</pwa>
<div> </div>
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<div>
<div>
<div dir="auto">Google groups!</div>
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<div><br>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at
5:40 PM <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-EB51122200E91FCF75791112C127E742" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: sjvn" data-pwa-suggestions="seen~skin~save~sun~son" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="sjvn" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">sjvn</pwa> via <pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-4437AF6F2B38A2785351B90A8E14D870" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: Ipg" data-pwa-suggestions="Pig~Ig~Ing~pg~Pg" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="Ipg" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">Ipg</pwa>-<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-71B2027AA860ADB5BD5D7C21C0D93106" data-pwa-rule-id="SIMPLE_SPELLING" data-pwa-category="spelling" data-pwa-hint="Unknown word: smz" data-pwa-suggestions="seems~seams~sums~Sims~smears" data-pwa-heavy="false" data-pwa-dictionary-word="smz" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">smz</pwa> <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>>
<pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-38C6DD382469ECE66F7F2E4CBDFA6F5D" data-pwa-rule-id="BETTER_PHRASING_CE" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Better phrase is possible" data-pwa-suggestions="wrote" data-pwa-heavy="true" data-pwa-dictionary-word="wrote:" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done"> wrote:</pwa><br>
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<blockquote class="x_gmail_quote">
On Thu, 2019-12-12 at 16:50 -0500, Carol Pinchefsky wrote:<br>
> Slack?<br>
<br>
As it happens we have an IPG Slack, but it seldom gets
used.<br>
<br>
I don't find real-time group chat to be all that helpful
in any case. I<br><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-9FD1B44FE47326DC37E875FA097E8B07" data-pwa-rule-id="CAPITALIZATION_CE" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Possible capitalization mistake" data-pwa-suggestions="Can't" data-pwa-heavy="true" data-pwa-dictionary-word="can't" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">
can't</pwa> see these being useful for what--should be
anyway--thoughtful<br>
online conversations. <br>
<br><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-F01848964BAAE7CE0EB08CDA8A40FB34" data-pwa-rule-id="MISSING_END_PUNCT_CE" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Possible missing end punctuation" data-pwa-suggestions="Steven." data-pwa-heavy="true" data-pwa-dictionary-word="Steven" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">
Steven</pwa><br>
-- <br>
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols<br><pwa data-pwa-id="pwa-93114BE9D7B500682D0A72D4DE6D48A1" data-pwa-rule-id="MISSING_SPACE_CE" data-pwa-category="grammar" data-pwa-hint="Possible missing space" data-pwa-suggestions="CBS / ZDNet" data-pwa-heavy="true" data-pwa-dictionary-word="CBS/ZDNet" class="pwa-mark pwa-mark-done">
CBS/ZDNet</pwa>, Contributing Editor: <a href="http://goo.gl/FkYasd" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">
http://goo.gl/FkYasd</a><br>
ComputerWorld, Columnist: <a href="http://goo.gl/c02Km0" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">
http://goo.gl/c02Km0</a><br>
QOTD: “Bad things don’t happen to writers; it’s all
material.”—<br>
Garrison Keillor<br>
<br>
<br>
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