<div dir="auto">Thirded. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 10:33 AM Lynn Greiner via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Same here. I can go days without checking the list when I'm on the road and catch up is much easier on email.<br>
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From: Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org</a>> On Behalf Of Christine Hall via Ipg-smz<br>
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2019 12:17 PM<br>
To: jack wallen <<a href="mailto:jack.wallen@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jack.wallen@gmail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a><br>
Cc: Christine Hall <<a href="mailto:christine@fossforce.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">christine@fossforce.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing lists<br>
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I still prefer email, however.<br>
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Christine Hall<br>
Publisher & Editor<br>
FOSS Force: Keeping tech free<br>
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On 12/15/19 10:51 AM, jack wallen wrote:<br>
> I'm with Christine. I've been using Slack for a number of communities <br>
> and it couldn't be easier. On top of which, you can integrate apps and <br>
> other bits to make it even more productive and efficient.<br>
> <br>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:40 am, Christine Hall via Ipg-smz <br>
> <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Funny, my experience is just the oposite. I've had nothing but <br>
>> trouble with Webex but Slack has been a piece of cake. Christine Hall <br>
>> Publisher & Editor FOSS Force: Keeping tech free <a href="http://fossforce.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://fossforce.com</a> <br>
>> On 12/14/19 11:43 AM, Lynn Greiner via Ipg-smz wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I find Slack a beast to use. Take a peek at Cisco Webex Teams.<br>
>> It’s free, and offers Slack functionality in a much nicer UI.<br>
>> It’s end-to-end encrypted and secure too – Cisco can’t peek.<br>
>> *From:* Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz-bounces@netpress.org</a>>> *On Behalf Of *jack wallen<br>
>> via Ipg-smz *Sent:* Saturday, December 14, 2019 9:49 AM *To:*<br>
>> <a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> *Cc:* jack<br>
>> wallen <<a href="mailto:jack.wallen@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jack.wallen@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jack.wallen@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jack.wallen@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing<br>
>> lists Why not do Slack? On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 4:54 am, David<br>
>> Gewirtz via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>>><br>
>> wrote: Well, we could self-host a WordPress site with membership<br>
>> and forum software. The entire solution can be built out that way.<br>
>> The only downside is a cost, monthly for good hosting and yearly<br>
>> for some commercial plugins to lock things down. The one gotcha on<br>
>> the site I built was that when we moved it to a new host, some of<br>
>> the commercial plugins wouldn't re-register. At the time I set it<br>
>> up, the cost for them wasn't too high, but they ballooned to a<br>
>> total of over $500, which was too rich for me this year, so I just<br>
>> moved the site and we're running old, somewhat out of date<br>
>> plugins. Also, I can't really volunteer myself to do the whole<br>
>> job. Post heart surgery, I'm trying to tone down how much work I<br>
>> shoulder. But I'm happy to advise. --David *David Gewirtz*<br>
>> Distinguished Lecturer, CBS Interactive Read my columns at DIY-IT<br>
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>> Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 1:28 PM Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>>> wrote: I will also contribute<br>
>> shekels. Some alternatives include <a href="http://group.io" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">group.io</a> <<a href="http://group.io" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://group.io</a>> (am<br>
>> on four ex-yahoo/refugee lists there) Cheap hosting as in<br>
>> namecheap/hostgator/etc that costs about $200 yr that uses php-ish<br>
>> bbs-ish (even 2FA/MFA authenticated) hosting (meaning NON-email)<br>
>> Or migrate totally to slack, which visually is tough for what we<br>
>> do as a mailing list. We're geeks here. Time to crack some<br>
>> knuckles. Not so long ago, David Gewirtz pushed through the<br>
>> <a href="http://netpress.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">netpress.org</a> <<a href="http://netpress.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://netpress.org</a>> re-do pretty successfully.<br>
>> Perhaps one of us can help you migrate the mailman version to<br>
>> something modern. I have MySQL/SQL-of-anything skills, if that's a<br>
>> problem. I could be a DBA if it didn't seem to require heavy<br>
>> high-calibre weapons. Tom On 12/13/19 3:13 PM, Daniel Dern via<br>
>> Ipg-smz wrote: > On Fri, 13 Dec 2019, Daniel Dern via Ipg-smz<br>
>> wrote: >> The least-cost account is $5.95/month, so under $10<br>
>> including the >> SIM, and >> (I just called and asked) you get up<br>
>> to five mailing lists for that >> price. >> (This account could<br>
>> probably also handle an IPG site, either as HTML >> or WordPress,<br>
>> even.) > > So that's like $100/year. I wouldn't be surprised if<br>
>> Pair could be > talked into comp'ing the account, even; I'd be<br>
>> happy to ask 'em. > > DPD > > > -- Tom Henderson ExtremeLabs, Inc.<br>
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