<div dir="auto"><div>As I recall, at least one of my past employers charged for the use of the Editors Choice logo, but we were never involved in that at all as far as choosing or testing. (Well, most of them, anyway. One EoC told me at one point that we should only review advertiser products, when I refused, I suspected my time there was coming to an end.) <br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">-- <br>Barbara Krasnoff<br><a href="mailto:bkrasnoff@gmail.com">bkrasnoff@gmail.com</a><br><a href="http://www.brooklynwriter.com">http://www.brooklynwriter.com</a><br><br>Author of "The History of Soul 2065."<br><br>    </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 10:35 AM Matt Heusser via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">On paper it is not any different that having advertisers for your physical magazine, and a “firewall” with editorial.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In practice, for those of us who used to work with dead trees, how did that really go?</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 4:29 AM Steve Wexler via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Perception/opportunity of conflict of interest.<div>Pay a fee for advertising the award or pay a fee for winning the award?</div><div>If the award is vendor neutral, then why charge a fee for advertising the award?</div><div>I remember there being a lot of negative chatter about the objectivity of Gartner awards.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 at 01:03, Barbara Krasnoff via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Sorry, I may be missing something here, but I can't immediately see what's wrong with charging a fee to use the JD Power name for advertising purposes after you've won an award as long as that doesn't affect the actual judging. <br><br><div>-- <br>Barbara Krasnoff<br><a href="mailto:bkrasnoff@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bkrasnoff@gmail.com</a><br><a href="http://www.brooklynwriter.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.brooklynwriter.com</a><br><br>Author of "The History of Soul 2065."<br><br>    </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 6:22 PM Gabe Goldberg via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Today's D and a friend's response:<br>
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<a href="https://m.sfgate.com/business/article/J-D-Power-cozy-with-winners-2620609.php" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://m.sfgate.com/business/article/J-D-Power-cozy-with-winners-2620609.php</a><br>
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"The companies evaluated by J.D. Power in fact pay the firm to use its <br>
name in their ads, and a hefty amount of cash is said to be changing hands."<br>
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> I'm shocked ... just shocked ... by this implication.<br>
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