<div dir="auto">I worked for Gartner. That's not correct. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 8:04 AM Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Whether Gartner, the American Heart Association, or JD Powers,
it's pay for play. There is no way, unless the process is
completely exposed, to ascertain a correlation between pay and
win--> but I assure you, there's a link as strong as f(x).<br>
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<p>The Magic Quadrant racket is especially galling and subjective,
and if you're not paying Gartner to understand your organization,
then you're unlikely to have much movement. Only very rarely will
a non-payer move in a quadrant.</p>
<p>And therefore, the veracity of all three herein mentioned aren't
worth doodley.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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<div>On 12/28/19 1:01 AM, Barbara Krasnoff
via Ipg-smz wrote:<br>
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<div>Sorry, I may be missing something here, but I can't
immediately see what's wrong with charging a fee to use the JD
Power name for advertising purposes after you've won an award
as long as that doesn't affect the actual judging. <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 6:22
PM Gabe Goldberg via Ipg-smz <<a href="mailto:ipg-smz@netpress.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ipg-smz@netpress.org</a>>
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response:<br>
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<a href="https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-12-27" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-12-27</a><br>
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<a href="https://m.sfgate.com/business/article/J-D-Power-cozy-with-winners-2620609.php" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://m.sfgate.com/business/article/J-D-Power-cozy-with-winners-2620609.php</a><br>
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"The companies evaluated by J.D. Power in fact pay the
firm to use its <br>
name in their ads, and a hefty amount of cash is said to
be changing hands."<br>
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On 12/26/2019 12:30 PM, Gabe Goldberg wrote:<br>
> <a href="https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-12-26" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-12-26</a><br>
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> I'm shocked ... just shocked ... by this implication.<br>
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