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<p>Witnessed it myself. Quid pro quo. <br>
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<p>Took my former company, publicly traded, to an initial call with
five different analysts in NYC one short week. Gartner was the
most open about it. The more you were researched, the more
visibility was received, and the more "accurately" you might be
rated. The next few sentences inferred an analogy with a
competitor, relating how with much research, they were now better
known and that visibility was probably good for them.<br>
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<p>Your experiences aside, that was my experience.</p>
<p>I believe very little from the analyst firms, taking their
renderings as anecdotal. In the ecosystem of entrepreneurship,
they're one large cog in the process and they know it. I believe
only RedMonk. <br>
</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/29/19 12:28 PM, Sharon Fisher via
Ipg-smz wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I worked for Gartner. That's not correct. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 8:04 AM
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<p>Whether Gartner, the American Heart Association, or JD
Powers, it's pay for play. There is no way, unless the
process is completely exposed, to ascertain a correlation
between pay and win--> but I assure you, there's a link
as strong as f(x).<br>
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<p>The Magic Quadrant racket is especially galling and
subjective, and if you're not paying Gartner to understand
your organization, then you're unlikely to have much
movement. Only very rarely will a non-payer move in a
quadrant.</p>
<p>And therefore, the veracity of all three herein mentioned
aren't worth doodley.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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<div>On 12/28/19 1:01 AM, Barbara Krasnoff via Ipg-smz
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<div>Sorry, I may be missing something here, but I can't
immediately see what's wrong with charging a fee to
use the JD Power name for advertising purposes after
you've won an award as long as that doesn't affect the
actual judging. <br>
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2019, 6:22 PM Gabe Goldberg via Ipg-smz <<a
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote">Today's D and a
friend's response:<br>
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<a href="https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-12-27"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-12-27</a><br>
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<a
href="https://m.sfgate.com/business/article/J-D-Power-cozy-with-winners-2620609.php"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://m.sfgate.com/business/article/J-D-Power-cozy-with-winners-2620609.php</a><br>
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"The companies evaluated by J.D. Power in fact pay
the firm to use its <br>
name in their ads, and a hefty amount of cash is
said to be changing hands."<br>
<br>
On 12/26/2019 12:30 PM, Gabe Goldberg wrote:<br>
> <a
href="https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-12-26"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-12-26</a><br>
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> I'm shocked ... just shocked ... by this
implication.<br>
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