[Ipg-smz] What happens when Linux keeps getting better and better?

Thu Dec 20 19:55:19 UTC 2018

Chromebook is winning because Google got it right, the did everything wrong that the desktop community did wrong. Now the desktop people will certainly try to hijack that success. The interesting thing is that even Google doesn’t use the word Linux anywhere near Chrome OS. Why the desktop community is so ‘cultist’ as Alan said. No one wants to get associated with it. That said I don’t see any point in Pixel. At the given point I don’t think Chromebook deserve any price point more than $500. I can get a MacBook for a lesser price and do much more than what Pixel can do.

PS: Be warned Google is KNOWN for killing products. I have burnt my fingers way too many times. I won’t be surprised if Google kills Chrome OS 5 years from now.

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> On Dec 20, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Dana Blankenhorn <danablankenhorn at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Chromebooks are grabbing big hunks of market share. I think we're being too purist here. I prefer not to call victory a defeat.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 2:45 PM Swapnil “Swap” Bhartiya <arnieswap at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes. But we are talking about Desktop Linux. Linux is a dominant player in modern world, Desktop is an exception. I also don’t like when we use the term Linux for Desktop Linux. Which confuses things. At one hand Linux is the most successful technology to date at the same time the desktop is a massive failure and the reason is simple. Linus and I had a discussion recently and even he admitted that Desktop folks and fragmentation is responsible for its failure. For a long time even Linus didn’t offered packaged version of  its own SubSurface to Linux as it was PITA to support Linux. They offered fro macOS and Windows. So let me repeat Linux is dominating the world, but Desktop Linux has failed.
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHFdoFKDuQA&t=23s
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> > On Dec 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Dana Blankenhorn <danablankenhorn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Androids are based on Linux and Chromebooks are based on Linux and Amazon Fire is based on Linux. 
> > 
> > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 2:38 PM Swapnil “Swap” Bhartiya <arnieswap at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I also use Linux, but only in limited use-cases. As it can’t handle my workload, simple. 
> > 
> > > On Dec 20, 2018, at 2:34 PM, Alan Zeichick <alan at zeichick.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > IOS. It’s an iPad Mini. 
> > > 
> > > I didn’t say, by the way, that Linux is bad, or that I don’t use it. Because I do use Linux. 
> > > 
> > > However, it is cultish and overhyped, nonetheless, imho. 
> > > 
> > > -A
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> On Dec 20, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Christine Hall <christine at fossforce.com> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> "Tenderly tapped on a tiny tablet"
> > >> 
> > >> I wonder what operating system that tiny tablet is using?
> > >> 
> > >> Christine Hall
> > >> Publisher & Editor
> > >> FOSS Force: Keeping tech free
> > >> http://fossforce.com
> > >> 
> > >>> On 12/20/18 1:48 PM, Alan Zeichick wrote:
> > >>> I’ll suggest “cultish” and “overhyped.”
> > >>> -A
> > >>> Tenderly tapped on a tiny tablet
> > >>>> On Dec 20, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Phil Shapiro <pshapiro at his.com <mailto:pshapiro at his.com>> wrote:
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>  Folks, sjvn is in the unenviable position of having to describe Linux, which just keeps getting better and better.  Let's all chip in and
> > >>>> buy him a Dictionary of Superlatives. My fear is that we're running out of adjectives to describe Linux. The Earth has a finite supply
> > >>>> of adjectives. We may have to soon start mining asteroids for new adjectives -- just to describe Linux.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>      Take pity on journalists who cover the open source beat. It's not their fault that Linux keeps getting better. Toss them an adjective
> > >>>> from time to time. They'll be so appreciative if you do.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>                 phil
> > >>>> 
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> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Phil Shapiro, pshapiro at his.com <mailto:pshapiro at his.com>
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> > >>>> http://www.twitter.com/philshapiro
> > >>>> http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> "Wisdom begins with wonder." - Socrates
> > >>>> "Learning happens thru gentleness."
> > >>>> "We must reinvent a future free of blinders so that we can choose from real options."  David Suzuki
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