[Ipg-smz] The U.S. Census Bureau pays me $100 for some UI feedback

Christine Hall christine at fossforce.com
Wed Sep 12 20:46:41 UTC 2018


How do we do that and still determine funding for women's health, since 
a nonbinary person can carry either XX or XY chromosomes?

Christine Hall
Publisher & Editor
FOSS Force: Keeping tech free
http://fossforce.com

On 09/12/2018 04:09 PM, Phil Shapiro wrote:
> 
> Yes, I have no issue with gender questions on the census. The questions 
> need to extend beyond M/F, though.  People who are nonbinary do not
> need one more insult to their identity.
> 
> 
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> *From: *"kgagne" <kgagne at gamebits.net>
> *To: *"ipg-smz" <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:59:56 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ipg-smz] The U.S. Census Bureau pays me $100 for some UI 
> feedback
> 
> But not transgender health issues?
> 
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, at 3:56 PM, Christine Hall wrote:
>  > For the Census Bureau, gender questions are legitimate. We need to know
>  > how many males and females there are for a variety of reasons, many of
>  > which are connected to funds to be allocated to programs addressing
>  > women's issues, as well as planning, etc.
>  >
>  > Christine Hall
>  > Publisher & Editor
>  > FOSS Force: Keeping tech free
>  > http://fossforce.com
>  >
>  > On 09/12/2018 03:14 PM, Phil Shapiro wrote:
>  > >    This morning the U.S. Census Bureau paid me $100 for some UI
>  > > feedback.  The person there told me, "I didn't design the web site, 
> so I
>  > > want you to be very candid in your feedback."
>  > >
>  > >       Me: Okay
>  > >
>  > >        Her: "What is your overall impression of the web site?"
>  > >
>  > >         Me: It totally, totally sucks. Did you folks use Crayola 
> crayons
>  > > to build a mock-up? If this web site were designed by middle school
>  > > students,
>  > > I'd say it would be a good first attempt.  Do you want me to tell 
> you why?
>  > >
>  > >          Her: Yes.
>  > >
>  > >         So then I patiently and kindly explained about all the
>  > > gratuitous and un-needed elements on the web site.
>  > >
>  > >          Then when I reached the Male/Female radio buttons on one of
>  > > their surveys, I could barely take it any longer.
>  > >
>  > >           "Just curious, did you folks get your web design degrees at
>  > > Patriarchy University?"
>  > >
>  > >             I was fully expecting to read about the 3/5th of a person,
>  > > but apparently the Census Bureau heard about the Emancipation 
> Proclamation.
>  > >
>  > >             I concluded by telling them, "I appreciate your asking me
>  > > for feedback. I'm hopeful that improvements can be made
>  > > before the decennial census. You folks have your work cut out for you."
>  > >
>  > >              They paid me my money and I gleefully ordered a pizza.
>  > >
>  > >                    phil
>  > >
>  > >
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>  > > Phil Shapiro, pshapiro at his.com
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>  > > http://www.twitter.com/philshapiro
>  > > http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html
>  > >
>  > > "Wisdom begins with wonder." - Socrates
>  > > "Learning happens thru gentleness."
>  > > "We must reinvent a future free of blinders so that we can choose from
>  > > real options."  David Suzuki
>  > >
>  > >
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> 
> "Wisdom begins with wonder." - Socrates
> "Learning happens thru gentleness."
> "We must reinvent a future free of blinders so that we can choose from 
> real options."  David Suzuki
> 
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