[Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing lists

[Matt Heusser]

I submit: This community was born on email lists. We live on email lists.
Email is our media. We do have A Facebook group, it is not tumbleweeds, but
it is not thriving. We do have a slack, it is even less populated.

I have seen enough groups fail to transition that I would be careful with
the idea of jumping to slack.

That said, we are a greying community. I’m the new kid here. I am in my
40’s. If we stay on email I do not know where we will be in 20 years.

This is literally the innovators dilemma, I think.

—heusser

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 9:52 AM jack wallen via Ipg-smz <
ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:

> I have a Slack workspace here:
>
>
> https://join.slack.com/t/techjournoworkspace/shared_invite/enQtODYxMDQwMTA1MjgyLThlZjBiZTQ2YzAyOTZjMjMzYmVjYTVmZTNhOGRlZTI3NDdiZDNmMDQ3ZDRkOTRlZTY2MjVkZWQ3ZmI1OGE5M2I
>
> We could use that if anyone likes.
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 9:49 am, jack wallen <jack.wallen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Why not do Slack?
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 4:54 am, David Gewirtz via Ipg-smz <
> ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:
>
> Well, we could self-host a WordPress site with membership and forum
> software. The entire solution can be built out that way. The only downside
> is a cost, monthly for good hosting and yearly for some commercial plugins
> to lock things down.
>
> The one gotcha on the site I built was that when we moved it to a new
> host, some of the commercial plugins wouldn't re-register. At the time I
> set it up, the cost for them wasn't too high, but they ballooned to a total
> of over $500, which was too rich for me this year, so I just moved the site
> and we're running old, somewhat out of date plugins.
>
> Also, I can't really volunteer myself to do the whole job. Post heart
> surgery, I'm trying to tone down how much work I shoulder. But I'm happy to
> advise.
>
> --David
>
>
> *David Gewirtz*
> Distinguished Lecturer, CBS Interactive
> Read my columns at DIY-IT <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/diy-it/> and ZDNet
> Government <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/>
> Mobile: +1 321-722-4620
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 1:28 PM Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz <
> ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:
>
>> I will also contribute shekels.
>>
>> Some alternatives include group.io (am on four ex-yahoo/refugee lists
>> there)
>>
>> Cheap hosting as in namecheap/hostgator/etc that costs about $200 yr
>> that uses php-ish bbs-ish (even 2FA/MFA authenticated) hosting (meaning
>> NON-email)
>>
>> Or migrate totally to slack, which visually is tough for what we do as a
>> mailing list.
>>
>> We're geeks here. Time to crack some knuckles. Not so long ago, David
>> Gewirtz pushed through the netpress.org re-do pretty successfully.
>> Perhaps one of us can help you migrate the mailman version to something
>> modern. I have MySQL/SQL-of-anything skills, if that's a problem. I
>> could be a DBA if it didn't seem to require heavy high-calibre weapons.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/19 3:13 PM, Daniel Dern via Ipg-smz wrote:
>> > On Fri, 13 Dec 2019, Daniel Dern via Ipg-smz wrote:
>> >> The least-cost account is $5.95/month, so under $10 including the
>> >> SIM, and
>> >> (I just called and asked) you get up to five mailing lists for that
>> >> price.
>> >> (This account could probably also handle an IPG site, either as HTML
>> >> or WordPress, even.)
>> >
>> > So that's like $100/year. I wouldn't be surprised if Pair could be
>> > talked into comp'ing the account, even; I'd be happy to ask 'em.
>> >
>> > DPD
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> --
>> Tom Henderson
>> ExtremeLabs, Inc.
>> +1 317 250 4646
>> Twitter: @extremelabs
>> Skype: extremelabsinc
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ipg-smz mailing list
>> Ipg-smz at netpress.org
>> http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org
>>
> --
> Ipg-smz mailing list
> Ipg-smz at netpress.org
> http://netpress.org/mailman/listinfo/ipg-smz_netpress.org
>
-- 
Sent from Gmail Mobile
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://netpress.org/pipermail/ipg-smz_netpress.org/attachments/20191214/e7b90c77/attachment.html>