[Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing lists

Lynn Greiner lists at itwriter.com
Sun Dec 15 17:32:35 UTC 2019


Same here. I can go days without checking the list when I'm on the road and catch up is much easier on email.

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From: Ipg-smz <ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org> On Behalf Of Christine Hall via Ipg-smz
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2019 12:17 PM
To: jack wallen <jack.wallen at gmail.com>; ipg-smz at netpress.org
Cc: Christine Hall <christine at fossforce.com>
Subject: Re: [Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing lists

I still prefer email, however.

Christine Hall
Publisher & Editor
FOSS Force: Keeping tech free
http://fossforce.com

On 12/15/19 10:51 AM, jack wallen wrote:
> I'm with Christine. I've been using Slack for a number of communities 
> and it couldn't be easier. On top of which, you can integrate apps and 
> other bits to make it even more productive and efficient.
> 
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:40 am, Christine Hall via Ipg-smz 
> <ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:
>> Funny, my experience is just the oposite. I've had nothing but 
>> trouble with Webex but Slack has been a piece of cake. Christine Hall 
>> Publisher & Editor FOSS Force: Keeping tech free http://fossforce.com 
>> On 12/14/19 11:43 AM, Lynn Greiner via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>
>>     I find Slack a beast to use. Take a peek at Cisco Webex Teams.
>>     It’s free, and offers Slack functionality in a much nicer UI.
>>     It’s end-to-end encrypted and secure too – Cisco can’t peek.
>>     *From:* Ipg-smz <ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org
>>     <mailto:ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org>> *On Behalf Of *jack wallen
>>     via Ipg-smz *Sent:* Saturday, December 14, 2019 9:49 AM *To:*
>>     ipg-smz at netpress.org <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org> *Cc:* jack
>>     wallen <jack.wallen at gmail.com <mailto:jack.wallen at gmail.com>>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing
>>     lists Why not do Slack? On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 4:54 am, David
>>     Gewirtz via Ipg-smz <ipg-smz at netpress.org
>>     <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org> <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org>>
>>     wrote: Well, we could self-host a WordPress site with membership
>>     and forum software. The entire solution can be built out that way.
>>     The only downside is a cost, monthly for good hosting and yearly
>>     for some commercial plugins to lock things down. The one gotcha on
>>     the site I built was that when we moved it to a new host, some of
>>     the commercial plugins wouldn't re-register. At the time I set it
>>     up, the cost for them wasn't too high, but they ballooned to a
>>     total of over $500, which was too rich for me this year, so I just
>>     moved the site and we're running old, somewhat out of date
>>     plugins. Also, I can't really volunteer myself to do the whole
>>     job. Post heart surgery, I'm trying to tone down how much work I
>>     shoulder. But I'm happy to advise. --David *David Gewirtz*
>>     Distinguished Lecturer, CBS Interactive Read my columns at DIY-IT
>>     <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/diy-it/> and ZDNet Government
>>     <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/> Mobile: +1 321-722-4620 On
>>     Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 1:28 PM Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz
>>     <ipg-smz at netpress.org <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org>
>>     <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org>> wrote: I will also contribute
>>     shekels. Some alternatives include group.io <http://group.io> (am
>>     on four ex-yahoo/refugee lists there) Cheap hosting as in
>>     namecheap/hostgator/etc that costs about $200 yr that uses php-ish
>>     bbs-ish (even 2FA/MFA authenticated) hosting (meaning NON-email)
>>     Or migrate totally to slack, which visually is tough for what we
>>     do as a mailing list. We're geeks here. Time to crack some
>>     knuckles. Not so long ago, David Gewirtz pushed through the
>>     netpress.org <http://netpress.org> re-do pretty successfully.
>>     Perhaps one of us can help you migrate the mailman version to
>>     something modern. I have MySQL/SQL-of-anything skills, if that's a
>>     problem. I could be a DBA if it didn't seem to require heavy
>>     high-calibre weapons. Tom On 12/13/19 3:13 PM, Daniel Dern via
>>     Ipg-smz wrote: > On Fri, 13 Dec 2019, Daniel Dern via Ipg-smz
>>     wrote: >> The least-cost account is $5.95/month, so under $10
>>     including the >> SIM, and >> (I just called and asked) you get up
>>     to five mailing lists for that >> price. >> (This account could
>>     probably also handle an IPG site, either as HTML >> or WordPress,
>>     even.) > > So that's like $100/year. I wouldn't be surprised if
>>     Pair could be > talked into comp'ing the account, even; I'd be
>>     happy to ask 'em. > > DPD > > > -- Tom Henderson ExtremeLabs, Inc.
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