[Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing lists

[Gabe Goldberg]

Email, yes please.

Using any other channel, technology, tool, website, app, blog, or 
anything else already known or yet to be invented in this or alternate 
universe will fragment IPG and lose people, reduce participation.

IPG email comes to me whether I'm read to read it or not; it 
automatically nestles in its own email folder until it's time for me to 
surf, dip in, dive in, or drown in its wonderful collected/collective 
wisdom and folly. Having to use an IPG-specific tool or do anything 
IPG-unique means I likely won't, at least on a regular basis. I suspect 
that'll be all-too-common behavior.

On 12/15/2019 12:17 PM, Christine Hall via Ipg-smz wrote:
> I still prefer email, however.
>
> Christine Hall
> Publisher & Editor
> FOSS Force: Keeping tech free
> http://fossforce.com
>
> On 12/15/19 10:51 AM, jack wallen wrote:
>> I'm with Christine. I've been using Slack for a number of communities 
>> and it couldn't be easier. On top of which, you can integrate apps 
>> and other bits to make it even more productive and efficient.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:40 am, Christine Hall via Ipg-smz 
>> <ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:
>>> Funny, my experience is just the oposite. I've had nothing but 
>>> trouble with Webex but Slack has been a piece of cake. Christine 
>>> Hall Publisher & Editor FOSS Force: Keeping tech free 
>>> http://fossforce.com On 12/14/19 11:43 AM, Lynn Greiner via Ipg-smz 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     I find Slack a beast to use. Take a peek at Cisco Webex Teams.
>>>     It’s free, and offers Slack functionality in a much nicer UI.
>>>     It’s end-to-end encrypted and secure too – Cisco can’t peek.
>>>     *From:* Ipg-smz <ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org
>>>     <mailto:ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org>> *On Behalf Of *jack wallen
>>>     via Ipg-smz *Sent:* Saturday, December 14, 2019 9:49 AM *To:*
>>>     ipg-smz at netpress.org <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org> *Cc:* jack
>>>     wallen <jack.wallen at gmail.com <mailto:jack.wallen at gmail.com>>
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing
>>>     lists Why not do Slack? On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 4:54 am, David
>>>     Gewirtz via Ipg-smz <ipg-smz at netpress.org
>>>     <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org> <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org>>
>>>     wrote: Well, we could self-host a WordPress site with membership
>>>     and forum software. The entire solution can be built out that way.
>>>     The only downside is a cost, monthly for good hosting and yearly
>>>     for some commercial plugins to lock things down. The one gotcha on
>>>     the site I built was that when we moved it to a new host, some of
>>>     the commercial plugins wouldn't re-register. At the time I set it
>>>     up, the cost for them wasn't too high, but they ballooned to a
>>>     total of over $500, which was too rich for me this year, so I just
>>>     moved the site and we're running old, somewhat out of date
>>>     plugins. Also, I can't really volunteer myself to do the whole
>>>     job. Post heart surgery, I'm trying to tone down how much work I
>>>     shoulder. But I'm happy to advise. --David *David Gewirtz*
>>>     Distinguished Lecturer, CBS Interactive Read my columns at DIY-IT
>>>     <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/diy-it/> and ZDNet Government
>>>     <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/> Mobile: +1 321-722-4620 On
>>>     Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 1:28 PM Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz
>>>     <ipg-smz at netpress.org <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org>
>>>     <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org>> wrote: I will also contribute
>>>     shekels. Some alternatives include group.io <http://group.io> (am
>>>     on four ex-yahoo/refugee lists there) Cheap hosting as in
>>>     namecheap/hostgator/etc that costs about $200 yr that uses php-ish
>>>     bbs-ish (even 2FA/MFA authenticated) hosting (meaning NON-email)
>>>     Or migrate totally to slack, which visually is tough for what we
>>>     do as a mailing list. We're geeks here. Time to crack some
>>>     knuckles. Not so long ago, David Gewirtz pushed through the
>>>     netpress.org <http://netpress.org> re-do pretty successfully.
>>>     Perhaps one of us can help you migrate the mailman version to
>>>     something modern. I have MySQL/SQL-of-anything skills, if that's a
>>>     problem. I could be a DBA if it didn't seem to require heavy
>>>     high-calibre weapons. Tom On 12/13/19 3:13 PM, Daniel Dern via
>>>     Ipg-smz wrote: > On Fri, 13 Dec 2019, Daniel Dern via Ipg-smz
>>>     wrote: >> The least-cost account is $5.95/month, so under $10
>>>     including the >> SIM, and >> (I just called and asked) you get up
>>>     to five mailing lists for that >> price. >> (This account could
>>>     probably also handle an IPG site, either as HTML >> or WordPress,
>>>     even.) > > So that's like $100/year. I wouldn't be surprised if
>>>     Pair could be > talked into comp'ing the account, even; I'd be
>>>     happy to ask 'em. > > DPD > > > -- Tom Henderson ExtremeLabs, Inc.
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