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Gabe Goldberg
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Sat Dec 28 21:21:36 UTC 2019
When I see ads adjacent to articles about/mentioning the advertisers I
wonder which came first and on what terms. A couple pubs I've been
involved with would solicit such ads from companies mentioned in copy.
Assuming articles were commissioned and run without regard to
potential/actual advertising, that's benign -- but can still appear to
be pay-to-play. But how to avoid that appearance -- surely can't shun
ads from everyone mentioned in articles.
From SFGate article: "Also, companies honored by J.D. Power with top
rankings routinely pay it additional sums for extra copies of its
foot-high, crystal trophies" -- which seems to be pay-later rather than
pay-in-advance to play.
On 12/28/2019 11:21 AM, Barbara Krasnoff via Ipg-smz wrote:
> As I recall, at least one of my past employers charged for the use of
> the Editors Choice logo, but we were never involved in that at all as
> far as choosing or testing. (Well, most of them, anyway. One EoC told
> me at one point that we should only review advertiser products, when I
> refused, I suspected my time there was coming to an end.)
>
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> Author of "The History of Soul 2065."
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> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 10:35 AM Matt Heusser via Ipg-smz
> <ipg-smz at netpress.org <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org>> wrote:
>
> On paper it is not any different that having advertisers for your
> physical magazine, and a “firewall” with editorial.
>
> In practice, for those of us who used to work with dead trees, how
> did that really go?
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 4:29 AM Steve Wexler via Ipg-smz
> <ipg-smz at netpress.org <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org>> wrote:
>
> Perception/opportunity of conflict of interest.
> Pay a fee for advertising the award or pay a fee for winning
> the award?
> If the award is vendor neutral, then why charge a fee for
> advertising the award?
> I remember there being a lot of negative chatter about the
> objectivity of Gartner awards.
>
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 at 01:03, Barbara Krasnoff via Ipg-smz
> <ipg-smz at netpress.org <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org>> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I may be missing something here, but I can't
> immediately see what's wrong with charging a fee to use
> the JD Power name for advertising purposes after you've
> won an award as long as that doesn't affect the actual
> judging.
>
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> Barbara Krasnoff
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> http://www.brooklynwriter.com
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> Author of "The History of Soul 2065."
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 6:22 PM Gabe Goldberg via Ipg-smz
> <ipg-smz at netpress.org <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org>> wrote:
>
> Today's D and a friend's response:
>
> https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-12-27
>
> https://m.sfgate.com/business/article/J-D-Power-cozy-with-winners-2620609.php
>
> "The companies evaluated by J.D. Power in fact pay the
> firm to use its
> name in their ads, and a hefty amount of cash is said
> to be changing hands."
>
> On 12/26/2019 12:30 PM, Gabe Goldberg wrote:
> > https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-12-26
> >
> > I'm shocked ... just shocked ... by this implication.
> >
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