[Ipg-smz] nest app for Linux?

Sat Oct 12 00:06:31 UTC 2019

Tom:

Sorry. I didn't scroll below your signature -- I've found all your 
affiliations listed below.

I now know that you've got plenty of power and the equipment to run on it.

On 10/11/2019 3:05 PM, Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz wrote:
> I don't think Mark understands, but we'll give him some slack.
>
> I have two setups like this, based on four high capacity deep cell 
> batteries that are charged when I write this:
>
> 1) 150W portable solar panel rig to charge the batteries
>
> 2) 4KW for 2hrs, + backup 5KW generator with 5gal of fresh fuel for 
> 20hrs at 20% load
>
> 3) 42' aluminum mast w/tripod and inverted V antenna (good for 160-6M) 
> + emergency 20'high 40M dipole
>
> 4) two HF base stations, one VHF/UHF base and a crappy backup with 4 
> VHF/UHF antennas with four handheld transceivers each with two sets of 
> batteries that are charged at this moment
>
> 5) a RP3 running APRS (go to APRS.FI and enter in my callsign to see 
> my trails)
>
> 6) ten USB battery bricks, charged with an old Lenovo x120s laptop for 
> controller
>
> And 100% of it can be in my van in just five minutes and on the way to 
> a tall spot + with four days of food/water, porta, tools, with tent, 
> air mattress, and more.....
>
> but civilians don't understand what this stuff is, how it's used, and 
> how it will survive. I'm not a "prepper".
>
> My kit is representative of about a dozen in this county. ARES was 
> last pressed into use when the City of Columbus flooded about a decade 
> ago, taking out most of the downtown but also all cell/landline/fiber 
> for about 50K people.
>
> Emergencies happen. Find out what the SF Bay ARES network is doing 
> right now. The AREDN WiFi mesh is still up, i'm told. Take that, Verizon.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On 10/11/19 5:43 PM, wrash--- via Ipg-smz wrote:
>> Indeed, and what's equally important is that we specifically practice 
>> using
>> our radios for emergency communications. For example, we have an annual
>> event in which ham radio operators set up a full-functional emergency
>> communications facility in an area with little more than shelter from 
>> the
>> rain. We install temporary antennas, bring our own generators and solar
>> power units, provide radios and even networking equipment so that we can
>> staff all of the radios at the same time. Then we send practice 
>> messages to
>> others in the US and globally.
>>
>> Because we do this, when an emergency occurs, we can use what we've 
>> learned
>> to be up and running in a couple of hours.
>>
>> We also practice other types of communications, including emergency
>> communications networks, on a weekly basis.
>>
>> This is why ham radio is the one means of communications that always 
>> works.
>>
>> Wayne N4HCR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ipg-smz On Behalf Of Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz
>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 5:30 PM
>> To: ipg-smz at netpress.org
>> Cc: Tom Henderson <thenderson at extremelabs.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ipg-smz] nest app for Linux?
>>
>> A slight correction: When all else fails, ham radio still works. This is
>> what ham radio is about for many licensees.
>>
>> Tom W9YW
>>
>> President, Bloomington Amateur Radio Club
>>
>> Member, Monroe County IN Amateur Radio Emergency Services/ARES
>>
>> Member, Radio Amateur Communications for Emergencies/RACES
>>
>> Member, AMateur-Radio SATellite group
>>
>> Member, ARRL
>>
>> Former member: IEEE
>>
>> Secretary of the board and volunteer, WFHB Community Radio
>>
>> etc etc.
>>
>> Other members of the IPG that are licensed amateurs include Wayne Rash,
>> Lynne Greiner, Alan Zeichick, Curtis Franklin, and more.
>>
>> 73 Tom W9YW
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/19 5:06 PM, Mark Brownstein via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>> At an Intel AI Developer conference that I attended last year, one of
>>> the presenters made a comment that stuck with me -- 'it's amazing how
>>> easily people will give up their privacy for convenience.' I guess
>>> that I may be a victim of this, too.
>>>
>>> In the case of my Nest Thermostat, I got it, basically, for nothing -
>>> $150 with a $75 rebate from the Gas Company and a $75 rebate from the
>>> Department of Water and Power. What it cost me was, basically, the tax
>>> that I paid on it.
>>>
>>> It may not be that big a deal to replace my Nest thermostat with an
>>> Ecobee (now on sale at Costco - but no rebate). But I'll still have
>>> the less-than-satisfactory Nest Hello, and a handful of Google echo
>>> minis. I'm not sure I can replace them all at once (or want to spend
>>> the money), but until I do, Google will still be listening for every
>>> burp or other body noise, in addition to the 'Hey Google' stuff that
>>> we shout at them.
>>>
>>> When our Internet went out a few times yesterday, our smart light bulb
>>> stayed on -- 'Hey, Google' wouldn't touch it. Turning the knob on the
>>> lamp did the trick.
>>>
>>> My area is having fires. Internet is going out. If my friends didn't
>>> have cell phones - and the towers didn't stay functional, there would
>>> be no way to reach them to see how they were - or, worse, for them to
>>> pick up their VOIP phones and call for help.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/11/2019 1:49 PM, Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>>> I'm also not a fan of Nest.... but once invested, you either let it
>>>> slurp or not. You can't even null-route the bad guys.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/11/19 2:04 PM, Lynn Greiner via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>>>> I don't entirely trust Nest's privacy. Looking at the Ecobee
>>>>> instead. Two of their models were PC Mag Editor's Choice this year,
>>>>> FWIW.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Ipg-smz <ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org> On Behalf Of Dennisf63
>>>>> via Ipg-smz
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 1:40 PM
>>>>> To: Christine Hall via Ipg-smz <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
>>>>> Cc: Dennisf63 <dennisf63 at wildblue.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ipg-smz] nest app for Linux?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/11/2019 01:02 PM, Christine Hall via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>>>>> They both have the Linux kernel in common, but beyond that, my
>>>>>> understanding is that they're pretty much completely different --
>>>>>> but don't take my word for it.
>>>>> Getting back to the Nest line of geek-dom, the thermostat is really
>>>>> pretty cool. It can learn your patterns so it raises the temp and
>>>>> lowers it in line with your habits, for example. It even senses when
>>>>> no one is home and drops the temp to a pre-set lower level, then
>>>>> "wakes up" when it senses people in the house. I walk by the one in
>>>>> my hall and it lights up -- motion detector.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, I think it emerged from the mind of uber geek Paul Allan, and
>>>>> when a geek designs an interface to something that will be used by
>>>>> the hoi poloi, well, the results are pretty, but confusing, and then
>>>>> the documentation that's written for it only adds to the confusion,
>>>>> and now Google has taken it all over (cameras, security systems,
>>>>> etc., etc.
>>>>> etc.) and they created an app that is supposed to interface with ALL
>>>>> those Internet of Things gadgets via WiFi.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get me.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Dennis Fowler
>>>>> P. O. Box 70
>>>>> Otego, NY 13825
>>>>> dennisf63 at wildblue.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> -- 
>> Tom Henderson
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>>
>>
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