[Ipg-smz] Fwd: "Second System and Osborne Effects" gallery

[Perlow, Jason]

All good, all I was aware of. OS/2 especially, because it’s how I met my
wife.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 4:24 PM Tom Henderson <thenderson at extremelabs.com>
wrote:

> A few possible mistakes here.
>
> OS/2 started as a joint effort for 32-bit computing with Microsoft and
> IBM, then IBM inherited it. Windows NT 3.51 was the successor to Windows
> Workgroups, and eventually, the first ring-zero pre-emptive multitasking OS
> derived from that effort. It sucked, but it survived. OS/2 had more RTOS
> qualities, and was a cleaner if more difficult OS. Ask Esther.
>
> Blackberry 8 was itself an RTOS.... derived from another RTOS, QNX.
>
> NeXT was based on Darwin, DisplayPostScript and OpenMotif, and not the
> Smalltalk derivatives that enslaved Macs until OSX. In a way OSX was a
> derivative of NeXTStep. NeXT OS saved the Mac from extinction.
> The joint venture that created the 68K was Apple, Motorola, and IBM. The
> PowerPC anchored from that design. Motorola wasn't doing so well....
>
> The Itanium was developed by HP as the successor to ideas behind PA-RISC,
> and usurped by Intel who then cratered the Itanium, which it produced for
> HP, with the Pentium and Xeon architectures.
>
> When Osborne was killed by the Osborne 2, I sold an additional 13,000 of
> my Osborne I book . People figured that they'd not get another bit of
> support for the Osborne I. They were right.
>
> Second acts ARE hard to follow.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> On 10/15/2018 12:14 PM, Perlow, Jason wrote:
>
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>
> I am working on a companion gallery to an article I just published about
> Google's Pixel slate and Chrome OS.
>
>
> https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-grow-up-drop-the-apple-like-arrogance-or-chrome-os-will-fail/
>
> In it I discuss the "Second System" effect:
>
> "Second System Effect," by author Fred Brooks in his work *The Mythical
> Man-Month
> <https://www.amazon.com/Mythical-Man-Month-Software-Engineering-Anniversary/dp/0201835959/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539529598&sr=8-1&keywords=the+mythical+man+month> *in
> 1975, which he notes that small, elegant and successful systems tend to be
> succeeded by over-engineered and bloated systems due to inflated
> expectations and overconfidence.
>
> I also discuss the Obsorne Effect in that article so I am thinking of
> incorporating that as well.
>
> Here is a list, I think we can add a few, I'd like your recommendations:
>
> Second Systems
>
> 1) OS/360, IBM (1964, the original second system, succeeded Series 700)
> 2) IBM OS/2 (Succeeded DOS, Windows 3.x)
> 3) Windows NT 3.1 (Succeeded OS, Windows 3.x)
> 4) Windows Vista (Succeeded Windows XP)
> 5) Windows 8/8.1 (Succeeded Windows 7)
> 6) BlackBerry OS 10 / BlackBerry Playbook (succeeded Blackberry classic OS)
> 7) Palm WebOS (Succeeded classic Palm OS)
> 8) Apple System 7 (Replaced Apple System 6 and classic 68000 OS, was
> ported to PowerPC)
> 9) Intel Itanium (Succeeded x86)
> 9.5) IBM PowerPC (Succeeded x86)
> 10)  NeXT (Succeeded Apple Mac)
> 11) Lisa (Succeeded Apple II, preceded Mac)
> 12) Apple III (Succeeded Apple II)
> 13) Commodore Amiga (Succeeded Commodore 64)
> 14) Atari ST (Succeeded Atari 800)
>
> Osbornes
>
> 1) The Original Osborne effect (Osborne 2)
> 2) Microsoft "Cairo" (Original Object-Oriented NT 5.0 project, failed)
> 3) Taligent OS (failed IBM/Apple Partnership to merge OSes)
> 4) SCO/IBM Project Monterey (this might be better on the Second System
> list)
> 5) Google Fuchsia (potential Osborne)
>
>
>
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