[Ipg-smz] Facebook to hire ex-felons?
Richard Santalesa
rsantalesa3 at optonline.net
Mon Apr 1 02:32:54 UTC 2019
I'm not sure my perspective is different. I know many law enforcement officers, have contacts in the CT FBI offices. Etc.
I have no issues approaching LEO to query or discuss, but if approachef and questioned in the context of an investigation my standard recommendation is to state, "I'm happy to help in any way I can, but I can't speak to you further without my counsel advising me"
On Mar 31, 2019, 10:22 PM, at 10:22 PM, Gabe Goldberg <gabe at gabegold.com> wrote:
>FWIW, different perspective here. After attending FCPD Citizens Police
>Academy, I attended FBI Citizens Academy at Washington, DC Field Office
>
>(both fascinating/informative). Again, knowing multiple FBI agents and
>officials, I've had pleasant/informative interactions with them. As a
>citizen, I both carry an ACLU membership card and value my dealings
>with
>local and federal law enforcement. I won't quote the tired saying "If
>you haven't done anything, you have nothing to worry about" and
>recognize there have been abuses but don't feel the need to be on
>guard.
>In fact, both FCPD officers and FBI agents have been helpful when I had
>
>minor issue or questions to discuss.
>
>On 3/31/2019 10:06 PM, Richard Santalesa wrote:
>> Sorry. As an attorney I recommend no discussion with LEO ( especy
>> federal) other than definitely known facts with counsel present.
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 8:59 PM, Ken Hess <kenneth.hess at gmail.com
>> <mailto:kenneth.hess at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Exactly Sharon. That's the dilemma. You get out and can't find a
>> decent job. What do you do? Fast food or crime?
>>
>> I think there needs to be actual education in the prison system
>> especially for those who have the possibility of parole/release.
>> We can either spend some money training, teaching, and educating
>> people or we can pay for them to come back and live off the state
>> or get released and commit more crimes.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> Kenneth Hess
>> (918) 919-0411
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>> Skype: kenneth_hess
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>>
>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 6:31 PM Sharon Fisher <
>slfisher at gmail.com
>> <mailto:slfisher at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> So when someone has done their time, what are they supposed
>to
>> do for a living when released?
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 12:50 PM Gabe Goldberg <
>> gabe at gabegold.com <mailto:gabe at gabegold.com>> wrote:
>>
>> FWIW, I've volunteered with Fairfax County, VA Police
>> Department for 10+
>> years. I know -- and in many cases have ridden with --
>> officers from
>> patrol to chief. I chaired my police station's Citizens
>> Advisory
>> Committee and serve on the Chief's Advisory Council. I'm
>> on a task force
>> developing policies for public safety use of drones --
>> it's about 40
>> people, including police, fire&EMS, fire marshal, county
>> attorney, FAA,
>> Audubon Society, business organizations, citizen/civic
>> groups, and head
>> of Virginia ACLU. Output so far is a draft 35+ page
>manual
>> and all the
>> info is on fairfaxcounty.gov/uas
>> <http://fairfaxcounty.gov/uas>.
>>
>> There are 18,000+ law enforcement agencies in the country
>> so it's
>> misleading to generalize about "the police" or "law
>> enforcement".
>> Fairfax cops I know are honest/honorable/motivated to do
>> the right
>> thing. Over the years, policies have changed -- sometimes
>> in response to
>> national trends, sometimes to community
>> involvement/pressure, sometimes
>> to FCPD problems. There's pretty good transparency and
>> responsiveness.
>> Fairfax (1200+ officers) isn't Mayberry or NYC (30,000+
>> officers) --
>> there's no reason NOT to talk to police here; in fact
>> middle/high
>> schools all have School Resource Officers whose job is to
>> TALK to kids
>> -- not arrest them.
>>
>> I'm not claiming that everywhere's as fortunate as
>Fairfax
>> -- just
>> suggesting that all-inclusive advice about police can be
>> misleading.
>>
>> On 3/31/2019 11:18 AM, Stephen Satchell wrote:
>> > On 3/30/19 5:05 PM, Richard Santalesa wrote:
>> >> Oh come on pretty much everything is a felony these
>days.
>> >
>> > All too true, which is why you NEVER talk to law
>> enforcement unless you
>> > have to.
>> >
>> > And "ex-felons" implies "convictions".
>> >
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