[Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing lists

[Phil Shapiro]

I obtain large value from the IPG lists and community. Count me in for $125/year contribution, if we choose to go with a paid list service. Fine with me, too, if others might choose to contribute or not contribute. 



From: " ipg - smz " <ipg-smz at netpress.org> 
To: " ipg - smz " <ipg-smz at netpress.org> 
Cc: "Marcel Gagne" <marcel at marcelgagne.com> 
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 1:04:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [ Ipg - smz ] We need an alternative to our existing lists 

> I'll be behind Joe. Google is not your friend, it is your rapist. 

Ah, the eternal problem. If we want it free, then we must understand and accept that the cost of free is being paid elsewhere and in some other way. Note that I'm not making moral or ethical judgements here. I'm only saying that Google offers its Groups fora (or forums) free at the cost of the end users surrendering some amount of privacy, as a starting point. 

If we don't want to associate with a company in terms of maintaining this list, then perhaps we need to find a way to rent a VPS somewhere, load up and maintain software, of which there is a hell of a lot, and of course, find a way to pay for it. 

Would those who are concerned about accepting the gilded cage of a corporate benefactor/ruler be willing to pony up a few dollars a month to maintain the list? 

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Marcel Gagné 
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From: " ipg - smz " <ipg-smz at netpress.org> 
To: " ipg - smz " <ipg-smz at netpress.org> 
Cc: "Tom Henderson" <thenderson at extremelabs.com> 
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 12:32:39 PM 
Subject: Re: [ Ipg - smz ] We need an alternative to our existing lists 



I'll be behind Joe. Google is not your friend, it is your rapist. 


Tom 
On 12/12/19 10:30 PM, Joe Stanganelli via Ipg - smz wrote: 





If we switch to Google groups please remove me before doing so. 



Joe 



From: Ipg- smz [ mailto:ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org | <ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org> ] on behalf of Matt Heusser via Ipg- smz [ mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org | <ipg-smz at netpress.org> ] 
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 8:47:24 PM 
To: sjvn via Ipg- smz [ mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org | <ipg-smz at netpress.org> ] 
Cc: Matt Heusser [ mailto:matt at xndev.com | <matt at xndev.com> ] 
Subject: Re: [Ipg- smz ] We need an alternative to our existing lists 
Google groups! 

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 5:40 PM sjvn via Ipg - smz < [ mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org | ipg-smz at netpress.org ] > wrote: 

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On Thu, 2019-12-12 at 16:50 -0500, Carol Pinchefsky wrote: 
> Slack? 

As it happens we have an IPG Slack, but it seldom gets used. 

I don't find real-time group chat to be all that helpful in any case. I 
can't see these being useful for what--should be anyway--thoughtful 
online conversations. 

Steven 
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