[Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing lists

[David Gewirtz]

So, a thought, and this could be my lack of knowledge of slack, but I read
these lists at lull periods, not in real time. I tried to follow our slack
list, but quickly grew bored. But here, when I get a few minutes or it's
late at night and I'm catching up, I can read through entire threads, catch
up, and respond.

I don't think we're a real-time group. I don't care too much if it's email
or a group forum, but I'd vote against anything that's structured around
"chat". Also, a benefit of email is substantially more group privacy. I'd
prefer to avoid giving Google (et al) a chance to scan our posts.
Sometimes, what we say is private. For example, I told CBS and IPG about my
heart attack, but no one else, including friends or family. Wasn't
something I wanted public. Sometimes we talk about publications, our
personal issues, etc, and we don't want that in the public eye. The benefit
of a private guild list is that it's private. Let's keep that in mind as we
move forward.

--David



*David Gewirtz*
Distinguished Lecturer, CBS Interactive
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On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 8:44 AM Lynn Greiner via Ipg-smz <
ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:

> I find Slack a beast to use. Take a peek at Cisco Webex Teams. It’s free,
> and offers Slack functionality in a much nicer UI. It’s end-to-end
> encrypted and secure too – Cisco can’t peek.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ipg-smz <ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org> *On Behalf Of *jack wallen
> via Ipg-smz
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 14, 2019 9:49 AM
> *To:* ipg-smz at netpress.org
> *Cc:* jack wallen <jack.wallen at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing lists
>
>
>
> Why not do Slack?
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 4:54 am, David Gewirtz via Ipg-smz <
> ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:
>
> Well, we could self-host a WordPress site with membership and forum
> software. The entire solution can be built out that way. The only downside
> is a cost, monthly for good hosting and yearly for some commercial plugins
> to lock things down.
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>
>
> The one gotcha on the site I built was that when we moved it to a new
> host, some of the commercial plugins wouldn't re-register. At the time I
> set it up, the cost for them wasn't too high, but they ballooned to a total
> of over $500, which was too rich for me this year, so I just moved the site
> and we're running old, somewhat out of date plugins.
>
>
>
> Also, I can't really volunteer myself to do the whole job. Post heart
> surgery, I'm trying to tone down how much work I shoulder. But I'm happy to
> advise.
>
>
>
> --David
>
>
>
>
> *David Gewirtz*
>
> Distinguished Lecturer, CBS Interactive
>
> Read my columns at DIY-IT <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/diy-it/> and ZDNet
> Government <http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/>
>
> Mobile: +1 321-722-4620
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 1:28 PM Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz <
> ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:
>
> I will also contribute shekels.
>
> Some alternatives include group.io (am on four ex-yahoo/refugee lists
> there)
>
> Cheap hosting as in namecheap/hostgator/etc that costs about $200 yr
> that uses php-ish bbs-ish (even 2FA/MFA authenticated) hosting (meaning
> NON-email)
>
> Or migrate totally to slack, which visually is tough for what we do as a
> mailing list.
>
> We're geeks here. Time to crack some knuckles. Not so long ago, David
> Gewirtz pushed through the netpress.org re-do pretty successfully.
> Perhaps one of us can help you migrate the mailman version to something
> modern. I have MySQL/SQL-of-anything skills, if that's a problem. I
> could be a DBA if it didn't seem to require heavy high-calibre weapons.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On 12/13/19 3:13 PM, Daniel Dern via Ipg-smz wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Dec 2019, Daniel Dern via Ipg-smz wrote:
> >> The least-cost account is $5.95/month, so under $10 including the
> >> SIM, and
> >> (I just called and asked) you get up to five mailing lists for that
> >> price.
> >> (This account could probably also handle an IPG site, either as HTML
> >> or WordPress, even.)
> >
> > So that's like $100/year. I wouldn't be surprised if Pair could be
> > talked into comp'ing the account, even; I'd be happy to ask 'em.
> >
> > DPD
> >
> >
> >
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