[Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing lists

Phil Shapiro pshapiro at his.com
Mon Dec 16 18:34:00 UTC 2019 

Lifehacker loves groups.io -- and they explain why. 

[ https://lifehacker.com/drop-google-and-facebook-groups-and-use-this-instead-1823994067 | https://lifehacker.com/drop-google-and-facebook-groups-and-use-this-instead-1823994067 ] 

That's some very fine journalism there. 




From: " ipg - smz " <ipg-smz at netpress.org> 
To: "Howard M. Cohen" <hmc at hmcwritenow.com> 
Cc: "Perlow, Jason" <jperlow at gmail.com>, " ipg - smz " <ipg-smz at netpress.org> 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 1:05:14 PM 
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Howard, if you are up for it, and given that a lot of people do not like Facebook, I would be happy to run a Tech Journos FB group, if people wanted to opt in to it. I don't want to fork from IPG, since I am an officer, but I can see some people wanting to do stuff on there. 

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 1:01 PM Howard M. Cohen < [ mailto:hmc at hmcwritenow.com | hmc at hmcwritenow.com ] > wrote: 





Wait for it… Fear of Facebook will soon rear it’s ugly head. Richly deserved, but manageable. 



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Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 10:59 AM 
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Subject: Re: [ Ipg - smz ] We need an alternative to our existing lists 




Yes, I agree. There's a lot of volume, a lot of us already use facebook , and then we can compartmentalize the discussions within a single post. 





On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:58 PM Howard M. Cohen < [ mailto:hmc at hmcwritenow.com | hmc at hmcwritenow.com ] > wrote: 

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FWIW, and given the fantastic volume of messages back and forth about this issue, I concur with Jason. A closed group is a great solution that requires little administration or support. 



From: Ipg-smz < [ mailto:ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org | ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org ] > On Behalf Of Perlow, Jason via Ipg-smz 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 10:55 AM 
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Since we already have a FB fan page, adding a group to it is pretty easy. I can set it up if you give me mod/admin on it. 





On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:54 PM Perlow, Jason < [ mailto:jperlow at gmail.com | jperlow at gmail.com ] > wrote: 

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I currently run a Facebook group with nearly 2000 members in it, the admin controls are pretty easy. If it is private/secret the overhead will be minimal. 





On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:53 PM Perlow, Jason < [ mailto:jperlow at gmail.com | jperlow at gmail.com ] > wrote: 

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Private/Secret Facebook Group. Or Google Groups. Facebook group would be easier to deal with I think. 





On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 4:49 PM sjvn via Ipg-smz < [ mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org | ipg-smz at netpress.org ] > wrote: 

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After months of fiddling with the list software, mail server, and 
settings, I'm about to give up on our current platform. For reasons I 
have not been able to pin down, some members keep getting locked out of 
one or more lists. 

Indeed, SMZ, for some reason, seems to be the list that has the least 
amount of trouble, so I'm posting this message to it, rather than ipg- 
l, which is its more natural home. 

I still believe a mailing list is the best way to go, it's just that 
our current setup is Not doing the job. 

If anyone has any suggestions on how to replace it, I'd love to hear 
them. I have some ideas of my own, but I'd like to hear from you. 

Steven 


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