[Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing lists

[David Gewirtz]

I appreciate Jason's recommendation for Facebook, but I would prefer to use
something else. I belong to my small town's Facebook group, and while it's
an exceptional tool for community involvement, we've had numerous problems.
The biggest was that one member complained to Facebook (believe it or not,
claiming terrorist material on a small town group that talks mostly about
missing animals and bake sales). That complaint resulted in the group being
shut down by Facebook for a month. Less critical but annoying factors
include a constant drumbeat of "why wasn't my post posted," because the
algorithm tends to raise and lower posts so not everyone sees every post.

(Aside: best post was the one saying that there were two bulls running
loose down Main Street and would the owner please take them home. Didn't
get that flavor of post in Florida or New Jersey)

I like being able to go into my IPG folder and deal with IPG, not have all
the IPG messages interspersed with my stream of other Facebook messages.

Facebook is certainly a valid tool (although I'm going to avoid the new
TechJournos group Jason set up, simply because i just want to interact with
IPG in one place), but I'd prefer not to use it for this if we have that
option.



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On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 4:33 AM Richi Jennings via Ipg-smz <
ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:

> I'm super-confident that SJVN is deeply aware of those issues. Anyway, the
> fact that it's only some of the lists points to a bug in the list software
> itself; hence the talk about a difficult upgrade.
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> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, 12:29 am Gabe Goldberg via Ipg-smz, <
> ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:
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>> Chasing email delivery problem -- I wasn't getting daily Dilbert dose! --
>> a friend who's deep into email theology speculated that it's related to
>> improving standards for verifying email senders and blocking spam: SPF or
>> DMARC issues. I vaguely understand that those involve receiver/sender
>> negotiating credentials. So, of course, problems can be at either end.
>> On 12/16/2019 12:55 PM, sjvn via Ipg-smz wrote:
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>> On Mon, 2019-12-16 at 12:36 -0500, Christine Hall via Ipg-smz wrote:
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>> Is the problem with the host? I think we changed hosts a while back
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>> after running across a similar problem. Isn't this a platform problem?
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>> It doesn't seem to be.
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>> Frankly, I've been finding trouble-shooting this annoying as hell. I know
>> my way around e-mail and MLMs and I can't even nail down the cause, never
>> mind the fix.
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>> I'm going to look closely at groups.io when I have a minute to see if I
>> can use it as a drop-in replacement for Mailman. If you want to use the web
>> interface, fine and dandy, but I'm a big beleive in mailing lists for group
>> conversations and it seems most of you are as well.
>>
>> Steven
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