[Ipg-smz] We need an alternative to our existing lists

Tue Dec 17 14:25:59 UTC 2019

We aren't talking about a group with thousands of members though. We have a
few hundred members on IPG, and the percentage of active ones is VERY low.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 8:48 AM David Gewirtz via Ipg-smz <
ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:

> I appreciate Jason's recommendation for Facebook, but I would prefer to
> use something else. I belong to my small town's Facebook group, and while
> it's an exceptional tool for community involvement, we've had numerous
> problems. The biggest was that one member complained to Facebook (believe
> it or not, claiming terrorist material on a small town group that talks
> mostly about missing animals and bake sales). That complaint resulted in
> the group being shut down by Facebook for a month. Less critical but
> annoying factors include a constant drumbeat of "why wasn't my post
> posted," because the algorithm tends to raise and lower posts so not
> everyone sees every post.
>
> (Aside: best post was the one saying that there were two bulls running
> loose down Main Street and would the owner please take them home. Didn't
> get that flavor of post in Florida or New Jersey)
>
> I like being able to go into my IPG folder and deal with IPG, not have all
> the IPG messages interspersed with my stream of other Facebook messages.
>
> Facebook is certainly a valid tool (although I'm going to avoid the new
> TechJournos group Jason set up, simply because i just want to interact with
> IPG in one place), but I'd prefer not to use it for this if we have that
> option.
>
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> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 4:33 AM Richi Jennings via Ipg-smz <
> ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm super-confident that SJVN is deeply aware of those issues. Anyway,
>> the fact that it's only some of the lists points to a bug in the list
>> software itself; hence the talk about a difficult upgrade.
>>
>> --
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>>
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, 12:29 am Gabe Goldberg via Ipg-smz, <
>> ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Chasing email delivery problem -- I wasn't getting daily Dilbert dose!
>>> -- a friend who's deep into email theology speculated that it's related to
>>> improving standards for verifying email senders and blocking spam: SPF or
>>> DMARC issues. I vaguely understand that those involve receiver/sender
>>> negotiating credentials. So, of course, problems can be at either end.
>>> On 12/16/2019 12:55 PM, sjvn via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2019-12-16 at 12:36 -0500, Christine Hall via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>>
>>> Is the problem with the host? I think we changed hosts a while back
>>>
>>> after running across a similar problem. Isn't this a platform problem?
>>>
>>>
>>> It doesn't seem to be.
>>>
>>> Frankly, I've been finding trouble-shooting this annoying as hell. I
>>> know my way around e-mail and MLMs and I can't even nail down the cause,
>>> never mind the fix.
>>>
>>> I'm going to look closely at groups.io when I have a minute to see if I
>>> can use it as a drop-in replacement for Mailman. If you want to use the web
>>> interface, fine and dandy, but I'm a big beleive in mailing lists for group
>>> conversations and it seems most of you are as well.
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
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