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[Tom Henderson]

Witnessed it myself. Quid pro quo.

Took my former company, publicly traded, to an initial call with five 
different analysts in NYC one short week. Gartner was the most open 
about it. The more you were researched, the more visibility was 
received, and the more "accurately" you might be rated. The next few 
sentences inferred an analogy with a competitor, relating how with much 
research, they were now better known and that visibility was probably 
good for them.

Your experiences aside, that was my experience.

I believe very little from the analyst firms, taking their renderings as 
anecdotal. In the ecosystem of entrepreneurship, they're one large cog 
in the process and they know it. I believe only RedMonk.

Tom


On 12/29/19 12:28 PM, Sharon Fisher via Ipg-smz wrote:
> I worked for Gartner. That's not correct.
>
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 8:04 AM Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz 
> <ipg-smz at netpress.org <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org>> wrote:
>
>     Whether Gartner, the American Heart Association, or JD Powers,
>     it's pay for play. There is no way, unless the process is
>     completely exposed, to ascertain a correlation between pay and
>     win--> but I assure you, there's a link as strong as f(x).
>
>     The Magic Quadrant racket is especially galling and subjective,
>     and if you're not paying Gartner to understand your organization,
>     then you're unlikely to have much movement. Only very rarely will
>     a non-payer move in a quadrant.
>
>     And therefore, the veracity of all three herein mentioned aren't
>     worth doodley.
>
>     Tom
>
>
>     On 12/28/19 1:01 AM, Barbara Krasnoff via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>     Sorry, I may be missing something here, but I can't immediately
>>     see what's wrong with charging a fee to use the JD Power name for
>>     advertising purposes after you've won an award as long as that
>>     doesn't affect the actual judging.
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Barbara Krasnoff
>>     bkrasnoff at gmail.com <mailto:bkrasnoff at gmail.com>
>>     http://www.brooklynwriter.com
>>
>>     Author of "The History of Soul 2065."
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 6:22 PM Gabe Goldberg via Ipg-smz
>>     <ipg-smz at netpress.org <mailto:ipg-smz at netpress.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         Today's D and a friend's response:
>>
>>         https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-12-27
>>
>>         https://m.sfgate.com/business/article/J-D-Power-cozy-with-winners-2620609.php
>>
>>         "The companies evaluated by J.D. Power in fact pay the firm
>>         to use its
>>         name in their ads, and a hefty amount of cash is said to be
>>         changing hands."
>>
>>         On 12/26/2019 12:30 PM, Gabe Goldberg wrote:
>>         > https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-12-26
>>         >
>>         > I'm shocked ... just shocked ... by this implication.
>>         >
>>         -- 
>>         Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc.
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>>
>>
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>     Tom Henderson
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