[Ipg-smz] Why I love Apple?

Barbara Krasnoff bkrasnoff at gmail.com
Fri Jan 18 20:23:42 UTC 2019


Just to pick up quickly on something said at the beginning of this thread:
Chromebooks are indeed a nice alternative for tech-nervous folks. My
parents were comfortable with tech -- for a while, they'd simply inherit my
computer when I'd get a new one. However, now that she's in her 90s, my mom
is a little less flexible in what she can learn, and while she was
perfectly comfortable with Windows until now, when her Windows laptop
started to finally stutter, I knew she couldn't make the jump to the latest
version. So I got her a Chromebook about six months ago, and she's been
perfectly happy with it.

Barbara
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On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:44 PM Gabe Goldberg <gabe at gabegold.com> wrote:

> Speaking of native vs. immigrant...
>
> On 1/17/2019 5:53 PM, Gabe Goldberg wrote:
>
> Are those of us who've for decades used and/or written about technology
> digital immigrants? As was pointed out, our generation invented and
> documented what's now foundational to everything new and shiny and
> intriguing digital natives. More distinctions than age are needed -- you
> blitzed through Wi-Fi setup which baffled the supposed native. Maybe there
> are natives, pioneers/veterans, and immigrants?
>
> To echo again -- To echo Jason, I am amazed at how "civilians" can make
> their computers work in any form of fashion in many cases. Feel embarrassed
> that technology, and the major vendors, still make things so difficult. --
> amen. Looking at most interfaces and meager or non-existent documentation,
> I marvel that most people get anything working.
>
> Regarding documentation -- being old-school, I expect it. So I just ranted
> to Samsung CEO about my new 49" TV:
>
>  included one-page cartoonish no-words setup instructions and a 21-page
> “User Manual” most of which describes installation, setup, troubleshooting
> and maintenance, specifications, and warranty information.
>
> Helpfully, it does note that the TV itself contains a real manual; I
> downloaded that from website and paid FedEx Office too much to print it (in
> color). It's 143 pages -- so without it, one never discovers/masters all
> features. And who'll read that either on the set or on a screen?
>
> And (returning to this thread's actual Subject) -- Apple's just as bad,
> skimping on documentation.
> On 1/17/2019 3:01 PM, Mitch Wagner wrote:
>
> My introduction to the peculiarities of digital immigrants (our
> generation) vs. digital natives (the young people) was 10+ years ago, in
> two incidents.
>
> Our neighbors across the street had their granddaughter, then aged 14,
> living with them for a few months while Mom dried out, and they asked for
> my help setting up WiFi. Sure, I said, and configured their laptop and WiFi
> router. A simple operation, took me about 15 minutes, and yet the
> 14-year-old digital native was completely bamboozled by it.
>
> I also advised the grandddaughter that it was not a good idea to have
> Facebook as her home page. Not if she wanted privacy from Grandma and
> Grandpa.
>
> Second incident: At about the same time I joined Facebook myself, and one
> night, troubled by insomnia, I was in my home office doing random browsing
> through Facebook's "Suggested Friends" list. This was about 3 am. My niece,
> then a college freshman and 17 years old, came up on the list. I gave it a
> microsecond of thought, said "sure, why not?" and sent a friend request.
>
> This set off a MAJOR FAMILY CONTROVERSY. My niece went to her mother who
> went to my wife. My niece was concerned I'd be spying on her and reporting
> everything to her Mom.
>
> I said to my wife. "Weeeeeeeelllll if it's just college bullshit, of
> course I wouldn't report it. If she said she got drunk last night and was
> puking and was sooooo hung over, well, kids do that in college and I
> wouldn't report that either. But if she says she met a 46-year-old man and
> they're soooooo in love and getting married tomorrow, yeah, I'd be on the
> phone to her mother so fast that it'd break the lightspeed barrier."
>
> P.S. I lost track of the neighbor after both grandparents passed away.
> That family has had hard times and struggled with addiction; I hope the
> mother and little girl are doing well. As for my niece, she's a doctor now
> and runs a medical clinic in Baltimore!
>
>
> --
>
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>
>
>>
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