[Ipg-smz] Why I love Apple?

Fri Jan 18 21:30:37 UTC 2019

Totally understand, and I certainly wasn't trying to convert you into using
a Chromebook. I have one for lightweight traveling, but it isn't my main
computer. I was specifically talking about people (like my mom) who are not
all that tech-savvy and who use their computers for straightforward
email/browsing/whatever.

Barbara
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Barbara Krasnoff
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http://www.brooklynwriter.com

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:42 PM arnieswap at gmail.com <arnieswap at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think Chromebooks are great for anyone who uses a PC as an appliance to
> do online activities. But it's not a PC for anyone looking for using a
> 'computer' to create works. My wife uses her home PC as an appliance and
> she is happy with Chromebook flip. From my perspective, which could be
> wrong, when I look at a PC, I look at a computing machine that can handle
> any complex work I throw at it that need computation power. So with all due
> respect, Chromebook are not there and we are missing the point. I can't
> survive on a Chromebook for my workload. And MacBook costs same as a decent
> Chromebook unless you are buying a sub-$500 Chromebook. I need more
> powerful and capable 'computers' that can handle all latest workloads and
> not underpowered web browsing machines. Sorry.
>
> Swap
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:24 PM Barbara Krasnoff <bkrasnoff at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Just to pick up quickly on something said at the beginning of this
>> thread: Chromebooks are indeed a nice alternative for tech-nervous folks.
>> My parents were comfortable with tech -- for a while, they'd simply inherit
>> my computer when I'd get a new one. However, now that she's in her 90s, my
>> mom is a little less flexible in what she can learn, and while she was
>> perfectly comfortable with Windows until now, when her Windows laptop
>> started to finally stutter, I knew she couldn't make the jump to the latest
>> version. So I got her a Chromebook about six months ago, and she's been
>> perfectly happy with it.
>>
>> Barbara
>> --
>> Barbara Krasnoff
>> bkrasnoff at gmail.com
>> http://www.brooklynwriter.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:44 PM Gabe Goldberg <gabe at gabegold.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of native vs. immigrant...
>>>
>>> On 1/17/2019 5:53 PM, Gabe Goldberg wrote:
>>>
>>> Are those of us who've for decades used and/or written about technology
>>> digital immigrants? As was pointed out, our generation invented and
>>> documented what's now foundational to everything new and shiny and
>>> intriguing digital natives. More distinctions than age are needed -- you
>>> blitzed through Wi-Fi setup which baffled the supposed native. Maybe there
>>> are natives, pioneers/veterans, and immigrants?
>>>
>>> To echo again -- To echo Jason, I am amazed at how "civilians" can make
>>> their computers work in any form of fashion in many cases. Feel embarrassed
>>> that technology, and the major vendors, still make things so difficult. --
>>> amen. Looking at most interfaces and meager or non-existent documentation,
>>> I marvel that most people get anything working.
>>>
>>> Regarding documentation -- being old-school, I expect it. So I just
>>> ranted to Samsung CEO about my new 49" TV:
>>>
>>>  included one-page cartoonish no-words setup instructions and a 21-page
>>> “User Manual” most of which describes installation, setup, troubleshooting
>>> and maintenance, specifications, and warranty information.
>>>
>>> Helpfully, it does note that the TV itself contains a real manual; I
>>> downloaded that from website and paid FedEx Office too much to print it (in
>>> color). It's 143 pages -- so without it, one never discovers/masters all
>>> features. And who'll read that either on the set or on a screen?
>>>
>>> And (returning to this thread's actual Subject) -- Apple's just as bad,
>>> skimping on documentation.
>>> On 1/17/2019 3:01 PM, Mitch Wagner wrote:
>>>
>>> My introduction to the peculiarities of digital immigrants (our
>>> generation) vs. digital natives (the young people) was 10+ years ago, in
>>> two incidents.
>>>
>>> Our neighbors across the street had their granddaughter, then aged 14,
>>> living with them for a few months while Mom dried out, and they asked for
>>> my help setting up WiFi. Sure, I said, and configured their laptop and WiFi
>>> router. A simple operation, took me about 15 minutes, and yet the
>>> 14-year-old digital native was completely bamboozled by it.
>>>
>>> I also advised the grandddaughter that it was not a good idea to have
>>> Facebook as her home page. Not if she wanted privacy from Grandma and
>>> Grandpa.
>>>
>>> Second incident: At about the same time I joined Facebook myself, and
>>> one night, troubled by insomnia, I was in my home office doing random
>>> browsing through Facebook's "Suggested Friends" list. This was about 3 am.
>>> My niece, then a college freshman and 17 years old, came up on the list. I
>>> gave it a microsecond of thought, said "sure, why not?" and sent a friend
>>> request.
>>>
>>> This set off a MAJOR FAMILY CONTROVERSY. My niece went to her mother who
>>> went to my wife. My niece was concerned I'd be spying on her and reporting
>>> everything to her Mom.
>>>
>>> I said to my wife. "Weeeeeeeelllll if it's just college bullshit, of
>>> course I wouldn't report it. If she said she got drunk last night and was
>>> puking and was sooooo hung over, well, kids do that in college and I
>>> wouldn't report that either. But if she says she met a 46-year-old man and
>>> they're soooooo in love and getting married tomorrow, yeah, I'd be on the
>>> phone to her mother so fast that it'd break the lightspeed barrier."
>>>
>>> P.S. I lost track of the neighbor after both grandparents passed away.
>>> That family has had hard times and struggled with addiction; I hope the
>>> mother and little girl are doing well. As for my niece, she's a doctor now
>>> and runs a medical clinic in Baltimore!
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mitch Wagner <http://MitchWagner.com>  • Twitter
>>> <http://www.Twitter.com/mitchwagner> • Facebook
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/mitch.wagner>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
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>>> 3401 Silver Maple Place, Falls Church, VA 22042           (703) 204-0433
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