[Ipg-smz] Why I love Apple?
Christine Hall
christine at fossforce.com
Fri Jan 18 21:36:40 UTC 2019
Yup. It's a "right tool for the job" thing.
Christine Hall
Publisher & Editor
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On 1/18/19 4:30 PM, Barbara Krasnoff wrote:
> Totally understand, and I certainly wasn't trying to convert you into
> using a Chromebook. I have one for lightweight traveling, but it isn't
> my main computer. I was specifically talking about people (like my mom)
> who are not all that tech-savvy and who use their computers for
> straightforward email/browsing/whatever.
>
> Barbara
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> Barbara Krasnoff
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> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:42 PM arnieswap at gmail.com
> <mailto:arnieswap at gmail.com> <arnieswap at gmail.com
> <mailto:arnieswap at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I think Chromebooks are great for anyone who uses a PC as an
> appliance to do online activities. But it's not a PC for anyone
> looking for using a 'computer' to create works. My wife uses her
> home PC as an appliance and she is happy with Chromebook flip. From
> my perspective, which could be wrong, when I look at a PC, I look at
> a computing machine that can handle any complex work I throw at it
> that need computation power. So with all due respect, Chromebook are
> not there and we are missing the point. I can't survive on a
> Chromebook for my workload. And MacBook costs same as a decent
> Chromebook unless you are buying a sub-$500 Chromebook. I need more
> powerful and capable 'computers' that can handle all latest
> workloads and not underpowered web browsing machines. Sorry.
>
> Swap
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:24 PM Barbara Krasnoff
> <bkrasnoff at gmail.com <mailto:bkrasnoff at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Just to pick up quickly on something said at the beginning of
> this thread: Chromebooks are indeed a nice alternative for
> tech-nervous folks. My parents were comfortable with tech -- for
> a while, they'd simply inherit my computer when I'd get a new
> one. However, now that she's in her 90s, my mom is a little less
> flexible in what she can learn, and while she was perfectly
> comfortable with Windows until now, when her Windows laptop
> started to finally stutter, I knew she couldn't make the jump to
> the latest version. So I got her a Chromebook about six months
> ago, and she's been perfectly happy with it.
>
> Barbara
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>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:44 PM Gabe Goldberg <gabe at gabegold.com
> <mailto:gabe at gabegold.com>> wrote:
>
> Speaking of native vs. immigrant...
>
> On 1/17/2019 5:53 PM, Gabe Goldberg wrote:
>>
>> Are those of us who've for decades used and/or written
>> about technology digital immigrants? As was pointed out,
>> our generation invented and documented what's now
>> foundational to everything new and shiny and intriguing
>> digital natives. More distinctions than age are needed --
>> you blitzed through Wi-Fi setup which baffled the supposed
>> native. Maybe there are natives, pioneers/veterans, and
>> immigrants?
>>
>> To echo again -- To echo Jason, I am amazed at how
>> "civilians" can make their computers work in any form of
>> fashion in many cases. Feel embarrassed that technology,
>> and the major vendors, still make things so difficult. --
>> amen. Looking at most interfaces and meager or
>> non-existent documentation, I marvel that most people get
>> anything working.
>>
>> Regarding documentation -- being old-school, I expect it.
>> So I just ranted to Samsung CEO about my new 49" TV:
>>
>> included one-page cartoonish no-words setup instructions
>> and a 21-page “User Manual” most of which describes
>> installation, setup, troubleshooting and maintenance,
>> specifications, and warranty information.
>>
>> Helpfully, it does note that the TV itself contains a real
>> manual; I downloaded that from website and paid FedEx
>> Office too much to print it (in color). It's 143 pages --
>> so without it, one never discovers/masters all features.
>> And who'll read that either on the set or on a screen?
>>
>> And (returning to this thread's actual Subject) -- Apple's
>> just as bad, skimping on documentation.
>>
>> On 1/17/2019 3:01 PM, Mitch Wagner wrote:
>>> My introduction to the peculiarities of digital
>>> immigrants (our generation) vs. digital natives (the
>>> young people) was 10+ years ago, in two incidents.
>>>
>>> Our neighbors across the street had their granddaughter,
>>> then aged 14, living with them for a few months while Mom
>>> dried out, and they asked for my help setting up WiFi.
>>> Sure, I said, and configured their laptop and WiFi
>>> router. A simple operation, took me about 15 minutes, and
>>> yet the 14-year-old digital native was completely
>>> bamboozled by it.
>>>
>>> I also advised the grandddaughter that it was not a good
>>> idea to have Facebook as her home page. Not if she wanted
>>> privacy from Grandma and Grandpa.
>>>
>>> Second incident: At about the same time I joined Facebook
>>> myself, and one night, troubled by insomnia, I was in my
>>> home office doing random browsing through Facebook's
>>> "Suggested Friends" list. This was about 3 am. My niece,
>>> then a college freshman and 17 years old, came up on the
>>> list. I gave it a microsecond of thought, said "sure, why
>>> not?" and sent a friend request.
>>>
>>> This set off a MAJOR FAMILY CONTROVERSY. My niece went to
>>> her mother who went to my wife. My niece was concerned
>>> I'd be spying on her and reporting everything to her Mom.
>>>
>>> I said to my wife. "Weeeeeeeelllll if it's just college
>>> bullshit, of course I wouldn't report it. If she said she
>>> got drunk last night and was puking and was sooooo hung
>>> over, well, kids do that in college and I wouldn't report
>>> that either. But if she says she met a 46-year-old man
>>> and they're soooooo in love and getting married tomorrow,
>>> yeah, I'd be on the phone to her mother so fast that it'd
>>> break the lightspeed barrier."
>>>
>>> P.S. I lost track of the neighbor after both grandparents
>>> passed away. That family has had hard times and struggled
>>> with addiction; I hope the mother and little girl are
>>> doing well. As for my niece, she's a doctor now and runs
>>> a medical clinic in Baltimore!
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mitch Wagner <http://MitchWagner.com> • Twitter
>>> <http://www.Twitter.com/mitchwagner> • Facebook
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/mitch.wagner>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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