[Ipg-smz] Why I love Apple?

Fri Jan 18 23:48:32 UTC 2019

TBH, Chromebook is the best device for such users. It’s maintenance free and nothing could get wrong machine. 

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> On Jan 18, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Barbara Krasnoff <bkrasnoff at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Totally understand, and I certainly wasn't trying to convert you into using a Chromebook. I have one for lightweight traveling, but it isn't my main computer. I was specifically talking about people (like my mom) who are not all that tech-savvy and who use their computers for straightforward email/browsing/whatever.
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>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:42 PM arnieswap at gmail.com <arnieswap at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think Chromebooks are great for anyone who uses a PC as an appliance to do online activities. But it's not a PC for anyone looking for using a 'computer' to create works. My wife uses her home PC as an appliance and she is happy with Chromebook flip. From my perspective, which could be wrong, when I look at a PC, I look at a computing machine that can handle any complex work I throw at it that need computation power. So with all due respect, Chromebook are not there and we are missing the point. I can't survive on a Chromebook for my workload. And MacBook costs same as a decent Chromebook unless you are buying a sub-$500 Chromebook. I need more powerful and capable 'computers' that can handle all latest workloads and not underpowered web browsing machines. Sorry. 
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>> Swap
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>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:24 PM Barbara Krasnoff <bkrasnoff at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Just to pick up quickly on something said at the beginning of this thread: Chromebooks are indeed a nice alternative for tech-nervous folks. My parents were comfortable with tech -- for a while, they'd simply inherit my computer when I'd get a new one. However, now that she's in her 90s, my mom is a little less flexible in what she can learn, and while she was perfectly comfortable with Windows until now, when her Windows laptop started to finally stutter, I knew she couldn't make the jump to the latest version. So I got her a Chromebook about six months ago, and she's been perfectly happy with it. 
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>>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:44 PM Gabe Goldberg <gabe at gabegold.com> wrote:
>>>> Speaking of native vs. immigrant...
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>>>>> On 1/17/2019 5:53 PM, Gabe Goldberg wrote:
>>>>> Are those of us who've for decades used and/or written about technology digital immigrants? As was pointed out, our generation invented and documented what's now foundational to everything new and shiny and intriguing digital natives. More distinctions than age are needed -- you blitzed through Wi-Fi setup which baffled the supposed native. Maybe there are natives, pioneers/veterans, and immigrants?
>>>>> 
>>>>> To echo again -- To echo Jason, I am amazed at how "civilians" can make their computers work in any form of fashion in many cases. Feel embarrassed that technology, and the major vendors, still make things so difficult. -- amen. Looking at most interfaces and meager or non-existent documentation, I marvel that most people get anything working.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regarding documentation -- being old-school, I expect it. So I just ranted to Samsung CEO about my new 49" TV:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  included one-page cartoonish no-words setup instructions and a 21-page “User Manual” most of which describes installation, setup, troubleshooting and maintenance, specifications, and warranty information.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Helpfully, it does note that the TV itself contains a real manual; I downloaded that from website and paid FedEx Office too much to print it (in color). It's 143 pages -- so without it, one never discovers/masters all features. And who'll read that either on the set or on a screen?
>>>>> 
>>>>> And (returning to this thread's actual Subject) -- Apple's just as bad, skimping on documentation.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/17/2019 3:01 PM, Mitch Wagner wrote:
>>>>>> My introduction to the peculiarities of digital immigrants (our generation) vs. digital natives (the young people) was 10+ years ago, in two incidents. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Our neighbors across the street had their granddaughter, then aged 14, living with them for a few months while Mom dried out, and they asked for my help setting up WiFi. Sure, I said, and configured their laptop and WiFi router. A simple operation, took me about 15 minutes, and yet the 14-year-old digital native was completely bamboozled by it. 
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>>>>>> I also advised the grandddaughter that it was not a good idea to have Facebook as her home page. Not if she wanted privacy from Grandma and Grandpa. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Second incident: At about the same time I joined Facebook myself, and one night, troubled by insomnia, I was in my home office doing random browsing through Facebook's "Suggested Friends" list. This was about 3 am. My niece, then a college freshman and 17 years old, came up on the list. I gave it a microsecond of thought, said "sure, why not?" and sent a friend request. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This set off a MAJOR FAMILY CONTROVERSY. My niece went to her mother who went to my wife. My niece was concerned I'd be spying on her and reporting everything to her Mom. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I said to my wife. "Weeeeeeeelllll if it's just college bullshit, of course I wouldn't report it. If she said she got drunk last night and was puking and was sooooo hung over, well, kids do that in college and I wouldn't report that either. But if she says she met a 46-year-old man and they're soooooo in love and getting married tomorrow, yeah, I'd be on the phone to her mother so fast that it'd break the lightspeed barrier."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> P.S. I lost track of the neighbor after both grandparents passed away. That family has had hard times and struggled with addiction; I hope the mother and little girl are doing well. As for my niece, she's a doctor now and runs a medical clinic in Baltimore!
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