[Ipg-smz] nest app for Linux?

[Mark Brownstein]

This'll work as long as your ham radio is battery powered - and the 
batteries have enough juice to use it.  And, of course, there will have 
to be another ham operator who can pick up your signal and act on it.


On 10/11/2019 2:30 PM, Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz wrote:
> A slight correction: When all else fails, ham radio still works. This 
> is what ham radio is about for many licensees.
>
> Tom W9YW
>
> President, Bloomington Amateur Radio Club
>
> Member, Monroe County IN Amateur Radio Emergency Services/ARES
>
> Member, Radio Amateur Communications for Emergencies/RACES
>
> Member, AMateur-Radio SATellite group
>
> Member, ARRL
>
> Former member: IEEE
>
> Secretary of the board and volunteer, WFHB Community Radio
>
> etc etc.
>
> Other members of the IPG that are licensed amateurs include Wayne 
> Rash, Lynne Greiner, Alan Zeichick, Curtis Franklin, and more.
>
> 73 Tom W9YW
>
>
>
> On 10/11/19 5:06 PM, Mark Brownstein via Ipg-smz wrote:
>> At an Intel AI Developer conference that I attended last year, one of 
>> the presenters made a comment that stuck with me -- 'it's amazing how 
>> easily people will give up their privacy for convenience.' I guess 
>> that I may be a victim of this, too.
>>
>> In the case of my Nest Thermostat, I got it, basically, for nothing - 
>> $150 with a $75 rebate from the Gas Company and a $75 rebate from the 
>> Department of Water and Power. What it cost me was, basically, the 
>> tax that I paid on it.
>>
>> It may not be that big a deal to replace my Nest thermostat with an 
>> Ecobee (now on sale at Costco - but no rebate). But I'll still have 
>> the less-than-satisfactory Nest Hello, and a handful of Google echo 
>> minis. I'm not sure I can replace them all at once (or want to spend 
>> the money), but until I do, Google will still be listening for every 
>> burp or other body noise, in addition to the 'Hey Google' stuff that 
>> we shout at them.
>>
>> When our Internet went out a few times yesterday, our smart light 
>> bulb stayed on -- 'Hey, Google' wouldn't touch it. Turning the knob 
>> on the lamp did the trick.
>>
>> My area is having fires. Internet is going out. If my friends didn't 
>> have cell phones - and the towers didn't stay functional, there would 
>> be no way to reach them to see how they were - or, worse, for them to 
>> pick up their VOIP phones and call for help.
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/2019 1:49 PM, Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>> I'm also not a fan of Nest.... but once invested, you either let it 
>>> slurp or not. You can't even null-route the bad guys.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/11/19 2:04 PM, Lynn Greiner via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>>> I don't entirely trust Nest's privacy. Looking at the Ecobee 
>>>> instead. Two of
>>>> their models were PC Mag Editor's Choice this year, FWIW.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ipg-smz <ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org> On Behalf Of Dennisf63 
>>>> via
>>>> Ipg-smz
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 1:40 PM
>>>> To: Christine Hall via Ipg-smz <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
>>>> Cc: Dennisf63 <dennisf63 at wildblue.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ipg-smz] nest app for Linux?
>>>>
>>>> On 10/11/2019 01:02 PM, Christine Hall via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>>>> They both have the Linux kernel in common, but beyond that, my
>>>>> understanding is that they're pretty much completely different -- but
>>>>> don't take my word for it.
>>>> Getting back to the Nest line of geek-dom, the thermostat is really 
>>>> pretty
>>>> cool. It can learn your patterns so it raises the temp and lowers 
>>>> it in line
>>>> with your habits, for example. It even senses when no one is home 
>>>> and drops
>>>> the temp to a pre-set lower level, then "wakes up" when it senses 
>>>> people in
>>>> the house. I walk by the one in my hall and it lights up -- motion 
>>>> detector.
>>>>
>>>> But, I think it emerged from the mind of uber geek Paul Allan, and 
>>>> when a
>>>> geek designs an interface to something that will be used by the hoi 
>>>> poloi,
>>>> well, the results are pretty, but confusing, and then the 
>>>> documentation
>>>> that's written for it only adds to the confusion, and now Google 
>>>> has taken
>>>> it all over (cameras, security systems, etc., etc.
>>>> etc.) and they created an app that is supposed to interface with 
>>>> ALL those
>>>> Internet of Things gadgets via WiFi.
>>>>
>>>> Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get me.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Dennis Fowler
>>>> P. O. Box 70
>>>> Otego, NY 13825
>>>> dennisf63 at wildblue.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>