[Ipg-smz] nest app for Linux?

Fri Oct 11 21:43:33 UTC 2019

Indeed, and what's equally important is that we specifically practice using
our radios for emergency communications. For example, we have an annual
event in which ham radio operators set up a full-functional emergency
communications facility in an area with little more than shelter from the
rain. We install temporary antennas, bring our own generators and solar
power units, provide radios and even networking equipment so that we can
staff all of the radios at the same time. Then we send practice messages to
others in the US and globally. 

Because we do this, when an emergency occurs, we can use what we've learned
to be up and running in a couple of hours. 

We also practice other types of communications, including emergency
communications networks, on a weekly basis. 

This is why ham radio is the one means of communications that always works.

Wayne N4HCR

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A slight correction: When all else fails, ham radio still works. This is
what ham radio is about for many licensees.

Tom W9YW

President, Bloomington Amateur Radio Club

Member, Monroe County IN Amateur Radio Emergency Services/ARES

Member, Radio Amateur Communications for Emergencies/RACES

Member, AMateur-Radio SATellite group

Member, ARRL

Former member: IEEE

Secretary of the board and volunteer, WFHB Community Radio

etc etc.

Other members of the IPG that are licensed amateurs include Wayne Rash,
Lynne Greiner, Alan Zeichick, Curtis Franklin, and more.

73 Tom W9YW

On 10/11/19 5:06 PM, Mark Brownstein via Ipg-smz wrote:
> At an Intel AI Developer conference that I attended last year, one of 
> the presenters made a comment that stuck with me -- 'it's amazing how 
> easily people will give up their privacy for convenience.' I guess 
> that I may be a victim of this, too.
>
> In the case of my Nest Thermostat, I got it, basically, for nothing -
> $150 with a $75 rebate from the Gas Company and a $75 rebate from the 
> Department of Water and Power. What it cost me was, basically, the tax 
> that I paid on it.
>
> It may not be that big a deal to replace my Nest thermostat with an 
> Ecobee (now on sale at Costco - but no rebate). But I'll still have 
> the less-than-satisfactory Nest Hello, and a handful of Google echo 
> minis. I'm not sure I can replace them all at once (or want to spend 
> the money), but until I do, Google will still be listening for every 
> burp or other body noise, in addition to the 'Hey Google' stuff that 
> we shout at them.
>
> When our Internet went out a few times yesterday, our smart light bulb 
> stayed on -- 'Hey, Google' wouldn't touch it. Turning the knob on the 
> lamp did the trick.
>
> My area is having fires. Internet is going out. If my friends didn't 
> have cell phones - and the towers didn't stay functional, there would 
> be no way to reach them to see how they were - or, worse, for them to 
> pick up their VOIP phones and call for help.
>
>
> On 10/11/2019 1:49 PM, Tom Henderson via Ipg-smz wrote:
>> I'm also not a fan of Nest.... but once invested, you either let it 
>> slurp or not. You can't even null-route the bad guys.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/19 2:04 PM, Lynn Greiner via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>> I don't entirely trust Nest's privacy. Looking at the Ecobee 
>>> instead. Two of their models were PC Mag Editor's Choice this year, 
>>> FWIW.
>>>
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>>> From: Ipg-smz <ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org> On Behalf Of Dennisf63 
>>> via Ipg-smz
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>>> To: Christine Hall via Ipg-smz <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
>>> Cc: Dennisf63 <dennisf63 at wildblue.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ipg-smz] nest app for Linux?
>>>
>>> On 10/11/2019 01:02 PM, Christine Hall via Ipg-smz wrote:
>>>> They both have the Linux kernel in common, but beyond that, my 
>>>> understanding is that they're pretty much completely different -- 
>>>> but don't take my word for it.
>>> Getting back to the Nest line of geek-dom, the thermostat is really 
>>> pretty cool. It can learn your patterns so it raises the temp and 
>>> lowers it in line with your habits, for example. It even senses when 
>>> no one is home and drops the temp to a pre-set lower level, then 
>>> "wakes up" when it senses people in the house. I walk by the one in 
>>> my hall and it lights up -- motion detector.
>>>
>>> But, I think it emerged from the mind of uber geek Paul Allan, and 
>>> when a geek designs an interface to something that will be used by 
>>> the hoi poloi, well, the results are pretty, but confusing, and then 
>>> the documentation that's written for it only adds to the confusion, 
>>> and now Google has taken it all over (cameras, security systems, 
>>> etc., etc.
>>> etc.) and they created an app that is supposed to interface with ALL 
>>> those Internet of Things gadgets via WiFi.
>>>
>>> Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get me.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dennis Fowler
>>> P. O. Box 70
>>> Otego, NY 13825
>>> dennisf63 at wildblue.net
>>>
>>>
>
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