[Ipg-smz] New Job Question: Trial Period to Full Time Staffer

[Liam Kelly]

Ah yes, how could I forget!

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:55 PM Mitch Wagner <mitch at mitchwagner.com> wrote:

> Seems to me that Beyonce has the best advice here:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m1EFMoRFvY
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> Mitch Wagner <http://mitchwagner.com/about/>
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> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 7:42 AM Joe Stanganelli via Ipg-smz <
> ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:
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>> (IAAL, but this is NOT legal advice. This is “If I was in this situation,
>> here’s what I would do.” I am not your lawyer; you are not my client. I owe
>> you no duties and I am not to be trusted.)
>>
>> If the editor has merely said “stop writing for these other pubs” but
>> there is not an actual agreement to stop writing for these pubs, fuck ‘em.
>> Say nothing and write for whomever you want. You are still freelance.
>>
>> If they are asking you to agree to stop writing for other pubs, tell them
>> to go fuck themselves because that’s not how the world works.
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>> And, either way, I’d be seriously suspicious of doing any business with
>> these fuckwads moving forward.
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>> I am in a similar situation with a long-time client whose new-ish editor
>> has expressed the expectation that I tell him if I’m writing for other
>> security sites and that I’m not supposed to. I said nothing because I was
>> so stunned to hear such bullshit. And I write for whomever I want.
>>
>> tl;dr: Fuck these fucks.
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>>
>> Joe
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>> *From:* Ipg-smz <ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org> on behalf of Liam Kelly
>> via Ipg-smz <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:12:01 AM
>> *To:* ipg-smz at netpress.org <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
>> *Cc:* Liam Kelly <ljkelly1888 at gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* [Ipg-smz] New Job Question: Trial Period to Full Time Staffer
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've been speaking with a crypto/blockchain publication this week about
>> coming on board to help with their coverage. I will be paid on a per
>> article basis during a one month "trial period," after which, if all goes
>> well, I'll be offered a full-time position.
>>
>> Now, I also write copy for some crypto/blockchain companies at current.
>> One company is a startup in the space, whereas the other is a PR firm that
>> represents other crypto companies (among other subjects).
>>
>> The editor has stated that I need to stop writing for these companies
>> before beginning the trial period. I understand his reasoning (i.e.
>> conflict of interest), but it seems risky.
>>
>> What happens if I cut ties with a chunk of high paying work only to see
>> the full-time staff position get passed on to someone else? I should add
>> that the staff position will likely make up for the loss of marketing work
>> financially, and I have no problem dropping the latter once I've signed a
>> contract to work full-time for this publication.
>>
>> It is indeed tricky, and I thought members of the group would have some
>> good ideas/counter-proposals. What's a win-win for all parties in this
>> situation?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Liam
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