[Ipg-smz] New Job Question: Trial Period to Full Time Staffer

[Sharon Fisher]

Can you compromise? Can you agree to not write for vendors during the trial
period?

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 8:59 AM Liam Kelly via Ipg-smz <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
wrote:

> Ah yes, how could I forget!
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:55 PM Mitch Wagner <mitch at mitchwagner.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Seems to me that Beyonce has the best advice here:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m1EFMoRFvY
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mitch Wagner <http://mitchwagner.com/about/>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 7:42 AM Joe Stanganelli via Ipg-smz <
>> ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:
>>
>>> (IAAL, but this is NOT legal advice. This is “If I was in this
>>> situation, here’s what I would do.” I am not your lawyer; you are not my
>>> client. I owe you no duties and I am not to be trusted.)
>>>
>>> If the editor has merely said “stop writing for these other pubs” but
>>> there is not an actual agreement to stop writing for these pubs, fuck ‘em.
>>> Say nothing and write for whomever you want. You are still freelance.
>>>
>>> If they are asking you to agree to stop writing for other pubs, tell
>>> them to go fuck themselves because that’s not how the world works.
>>>
>>> And, either way, I’d be seriously suspicious of doing any business with
>>> these fuckwads moving forward.
>>>
>>> I am in a similar situation with a long-time client whose new-ish editor
>>> has expressed the expectation that I tell him if I’m writing for other
>>> security sites and that I’m not supposed to. I said nothing because I was
>>> so stunned to hear such bullshit. And I write for whomever I want.
>>>
>>> tl;dr: Fuck these fucks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Ipg-smz <ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org> on behalf of Liam Kelly
>>> via Ipg-smz <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:12:01 AM
>>> *To:* ipg-smz at netpress.org <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
>>> *Cc:* Liam Kelly <ljkelly1888 at gmail.com>
>>> *Subject:* [Ipg-smz] New Job Question: Trial Period to Full Time Staffer
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've been speaking with a crypto/blockchain publication this week about
>>> coming on board to help with their coverage. I will be paid on a per
>>> article basis during a one month "trial period," after which, if all goes
>>> well, I'll be offered a full-time position.
>>>
>>> Now, I also write copy for some crypto/blockchain companies at current.
>>> One company is a startup in the space, whereas the other is a PR firm that
>>> represents other crypto companies (among other subjects).
>>>
>>> The editor has stated that I need to stop writing for these companies
>>> before beginning the trial period. I understand his reasoning (i.e.
>>> conflict of interest), but it seems risky.
>>>
>>> What happens if I cut ties with a chunk of high paying work only to see
>>> the full-time staff position get passed on to someone else? I should add
>>> that the staff position will likely make up for the loss of marketing work
>>> financially, and I have no problem dropping the latter once I've signed a
>>> contract to work full-time for this publication.
>>>
>>> It is indeed tricky, and I thought members of the group would have some
>>> good ideas/counter-proposals. What's a win-win for all parties in this
>>> situation?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Liam
>>>
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