[Ipg-smz] New Job Question: Trial Period to Full Time Staffer

[Liam Kelly]

It would be tricky. I doubt that I would still have a job there after a
month of not working.

I'm just imagining the situation in which I tell the vendors that I can't
work there anymore because conflict-of-interest stuff, and then a month
later come back looking for my old job.

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 16:08 Sharon Fisher via Ipg-smz <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
wrote:

> Can you compromise? Can you agree to not write for vendors during the
> trial period?
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 8:59 AM Liam Kelly via Ipg-smz <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Ah yes, how could I forget!
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:55 PM Mitch Wagner <mitch at mitchwagner.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Seems to me that Beyonce has the best advice here:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m1EFMoRFvY
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mitch Wagner <http://mitchwagner.com/about/>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 7:42 AM Joe Stanganelli via Ipg-smz <
>>> ipg-smz at netpress.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> (IAAL, but this is NOT legal advice. This is “If I was in this
>>>> situation, here’s what I would do.” I am not your lawyer; you are not my
>>>> client. I owe you no duties and I am not to be trusted.)
>>>>
>>>> If the editor has merely said “stop writing for these other pubs” but
>>>> there is not an actual agreement to stop writing for these pubs, fuck ‘em.
>>>> Say nothing and write for whomever you want. You are still freelance.
>>>>
>>>> If they are asking you to agree to stop writing for other pubs, tell
>>>> them to go fuck themselves because that’s not how the world works.
>>>>
>>>> And, either way, I’d be seriously suspicious of doing any business with
>>>> these fuckwads moving forward.
>>>>
>>>> I am in a similar situation with a long-time client whose new-ish
>>>> editor has expressed the expectation that I tell him if I’m writing for
>>>> other security sites and that I’m not supposed to. I said nothing because I
>>>> was so stunned to hear such bullshit. And I write for whomever I want.
>>>>
>>>> tl;dr: Fuck these fucks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Ipg-smz <ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org> on behalf of Liam Kelly
>>>> via Ipg-smz <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 31, 2019 10:12:01 AM
>>>> *To:* ipg-smz at netpress.org <ipg-smz at netpress.org>
>>>> *Cc:* Liam Kelly <ljkelly1888 at gmail.com>
>>>> *Subject:* [Ipg-smz] New Job Question: Trial Period to Full Time
>>>> Staffer
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've been speaking with a crypto/blockchain publication this week about
>>>> coming on board to help with their coverage. I will be paid on a per
>>>> article basis during a one month "trial period," after which, if all goes
>>>> well, I'll be offered a full-time position.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I also write copy for some crypto/blockchain companies at current.
>>>> One company is a startup in the space, whereas the other is a PR firm that
>>>> represents other crypto companies (among other subjects).
>>>>
>>>> The editor has stated that I need to stop writing for these companies
>>>> before beginning the trial period. I understand his reasoning (i.e.
>>>> conflict of interest), but it seems risky.
>>>>
>>>> What happens if I cut ties with a chunk of high paying work only to see
>>>> the full-time staff position get passed on to someone else? I should add
>>>> that the staff position will likely make up for the loss of marketing work
>>>> financially, and I have no problem dropping the latter once I've signed a
>>>> contract to work full-time for this publication.
>>>>
>>>> It is indeed tricky, and I thought members of the group would have some
>>>> good ideas/counter-proposals. What's a win-win for all parties in this
>>>> situation?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Liam
>>>>
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